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Ars TechnicaFairphone 5 sets a new standard with 8-10 years of Android support
The Fairphone 5 will keep on trucking until at least 2031.
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jnthnkl@arstechnica When Qualcomm's support ends, I guess Fairphone will just freeze the latest Qualcomm binaries as is in the vendor partition and only update the Android framework ?
steakfrite@jnthnkl @arstechnica According to Fairphone, they specifically chose a chipset from qualcomm that has a guaranteed 8 years of support.
That means they have a higher chance of actually reaching their advertised 8 years of support, compared to previous models that never reached their advertised support target precisely because the SoC reached end of life before then.
That means they have a higher chance of actually reaching their advertised 8 years of support, compared to previous models that never reached their advertised support target precisely because the SoC reached end of life before then.
@steakfrite @arstechnica 8 years ? I have read 5.
"[...] because Qualcomm wants to give "industrial" gear a longer lifetime (5 years) than "consumer" products."
@jnthnkl @arstechnica You might be right... I over-interpreted FP's blog post about the fairphone 5. 5 years of qualcomm support is supposedly better, but still a bit disappointing...
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@arstechnica anyone can say anything. Whatās actually holding them to that statement? Hell they arenāt a very big company, they canāt even guarantee theyāll be around in 2031, much less updating this phone.
simgal55@Sonikku @arstechnica This is not binding for sure, but the company get a bit of trust earned from the way they have and are handling the support for their previous models.
@simgal55 @arstechnica hope so. Just when I see promises of 10 year support I canāt help of think of things like
Patrick van der Wel@Sonikku @simgal55 @arstechnica Memories! I did not remember the promise of everlastingness though! #eMachines
chidi_anagonyeFair enough, but worst case, install lineage OS.
There is no guarantee about any support from any company. Apple, Samsung, Alphabet, etc could be pulling Enrons for all we know.
The stakes are pretty low here with a lot of potential benefits. If they go under, just install lineage and use it until the HW is no longer useful.
jnbhlr@Sonikku @arstechnica track record.
bubbajet@arstechnica Awesome stuff. Iām looking forward to the @arstechnica article in 8-9 years with updates on parts availability and cost. Donāt forget the speed tests and usability scores with notes on app updates and support.
Iād settle for seeing that article in 5 years.
Dimension 
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Better yet, the last model had calyx OS support, which was poggers
A lifespan of 8 years of updates is good so long as they don't collapse
@arstechnica fairphone trying not to be based challenge
AlexanderMars@arstechnica no 3.5 headphone jack hard pass. So sick of this shit.
Botahamec@arstechnica I'd buy it if they brought back Jack
tardThat is all nice. Bit I hope they will also update their policy on providing hardware spare parts for the same time. When I wanted to exchange parts with my fairphone 2 after 5 years and they were not available anymore the customer service told me that they expect the phones to be used only 4 years. This was shocking to hear. Also I had to exchange most of the parts more then once, which limits the sustainability of the device a lot.
This experience made me sad and disappointed as I was so happy that there was a manufacturer that claimed to not only be fair along the supply chain but also wanted to make a device that lasts.
seism0saurusI would buy it, if I wouldn't already have a Fairphone 4. A very solid smartphone, fair traded ressources and better payment for the workers.
AJ@arstechnica I watched the trailer for it this morning. Thought I misheard them. That is insane.
GNU/overflo@arstechnica i got a fairphone 4
i will not buy another one.
while ease of dissassembly is great, it also means it is more sensitive to moist conditions.
my microphone got wet and now.i sound really bad most of the calls.
but the mic is on the mainbaord and not a easy replaceable part.
:(
my next phone is a google pixel 7 with /e/-os
Jonas@arstechnica
Neat but with suck thckness it's sad that it hasn't any headphones jack nor hardware switches (wireless, mic, camera)
Neat but with suck thckness it's sad that it hasn't any headphones jack nor hardware switches (wireless, mic, camera)
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This is misleading. Qualcomm will drop support for the chipset soon. Sure, Android will get updates, but your hardware won't get any patches. And it's not like this is trivial, very real vulnerabilities have popped up in Qualcomm modems before
This is misleading. Qualcomm will drop support for the chipset soon. Sure, Android will get updates, but your hardware won't get any patches. And it's not like this is trivial, very real vulnerabilities have popped up in Qualcomm modems before
š§DaveNullš§ ā£ļøpResident Evilā£@arstechnica And how would they achieve that when the very few chipsets makers update firmwares ONLY for 2 yearsĀ¹, starting from chipset release ?
That should be criminal, but it's what it is, and no one is going to sue big corporations over itā¦ Certainly not coward lawmakers who always make sure they're on the MegaCorps' side
So companies promising 8-10 years support is just bullshit marketing
1. Not even necessarily 2 years starting from phone release, phones using older chipsets get less than 2 years supportā¦