In “Petro-masculinity: Fossil Fuels and Authoritarian Desire” (2018), Cara Daggett explains why, with white men, #climate denial and #misogyny so often go together.

She makes a powerful argument that the patriarchal power structures in our society are deeply entwined with our fossil-fuel based economy.

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@slothrop

This is a well written and thoughtful article, that touches on a key point that other articles like this miss: It points out that "masculinity" as defined here, means "white masculinity,"

Non-white men are *more* likely to be alarmed about climate change than white women. 🙂🙃

In fact, non-white boomers and silent generation, are more concerned about climate change than white Gen-Z women. 🤦🏿‍♂️

So the primary driver of this climate denial is unlikely to be masculinity in general.

@mekkaokereke Thanks for highlighting this.

I’ve edited the original toot to reflect that the combination of misogyny and climate denial is specifically a white men’s thing.

@slothrop @mekkaokereke

Non-white humans are immune against "that combination of misogyny and climate denial"?

@mekkaokereke I’ve become more convinced that there is a stronger correlation between climate denialism or indifference and someone’s dependence or perceived dependence on cars.

So many people believe they need cars, that no matter the threat of climate issues that stem from them, they will fight for more parking, wider highways, faster speed limits.

#carculture has ruined our planet.

@bluejekyll @mekkaokereke if you go onto any car forum they are *full* of angry (mostly white) men claiming in various forms that climate change is a "conspiracy" and they will fight till the last to keep their cars.

One outlier is Team-BHP but thats an Indian forum (so many directly see the sharp end of climate change), but even on there the environment is rarely discussed (although when it is, its not as acrimonious and unsurprisingly there is genuine acceptance climate issues are real)

@bluejekyll @mekkaokereke

Disabled elder here. I'm extremely concerned about climate issues, but I *need* cars to exist. I don't personally don't own one but if my significant other didn't drive me around in her hybrid my life would be severely restricted. I have multiple comorbidities so I avoid public trans as I do other plague ridden crowded spaces.

@LevZadov @mekkaokereke many people suffer from different issues related to mobility, but fear not. There is no chance that we’ll ever get rid of cars from our environment, but if it were only the people who truly need to rely on them that use them, then that would be better for everyone. You might also be interested in this article I just saw on my feed the other day: https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/24-08-2023/i-use-a-wheelchair-and-i-want-more-bike-lanes
I use a wheelchair and I want more bike lanes

This may come as a shock, but disabled people who use transport care about more than just car parks.

The Spinoff
This is the linchpin for us in the U.S. Do you believe in #climatechange enough to stop driving for the majority of your errands? Do you believe enough to call and write you city council to demand that they stop putting car travel above all other means? Do you believe enough to join the #waroncars? It’s not enough to just say it’s real, we all need to act. We all need to choose not to drive even if it is less convenient. Help get protected bike lanes in your city, more transit, safer walking!
@bluejekyll Never happen. But, not giving up. Note: The most effective weapon in the war on smoking was driving the cost of tobacco up and up and up relentlessly. Not all the this-will-kill-you warnings. Discouraging cars is futile without massive public-transit investment. People got to get places. So, punitive taxation plus huge investment.

@timbray @bluejekyll hard agree with Tim. Convincing governments to stop subsidizing fossil fuels (in whatever form) is one of the things that's going to move the needle.

Convincing people to be "inconvenienced" is a non starter and we already know how to generate enough electricity without fossil fuels.

We can have the future we want from a position of abundance, not scarcity (a la _Electrify_ by Saul Griffith).

@davemangot @timbray it sounds like you might be suggesting that EVs are the path to the future. And if that’s via bikes, maybe. But in terms of cars it will be 15 years or more before we make a significant dent in ICE vehicles, which is why we need to move away from cars urgently.

100% agree that fuel needs to be priced at its real cost to society.

@bluejekyll @timbray the 3 biggest choices you can make are:

* transportation
* heating
* cooking

It will be never years before we convince enough people to give something up to save the planet. Scarcity is not a winning hand.

Thankfully electric motors are just better. EVs are just one piece of the puzzle. When I cook away from my induction, gas feels positively archaic. #stopburningstuff

The other big levers are not personal choices for better or for worse.

@timbray I think you’re pragmatically correct, but I will say a reason I choose to ride at this point isn’t because of the environment or any other saintly reason. I just enjoy biking for my errands more. It’s far more enjoyable than being in a car.
@bluejekyll Totally, I have an e-bike and it's a life-changer. Also, wherever you go, free parking right in front.
@timbray @bluejekyll but to your original point, most cities need to invest massively before people will do this en masse. I’d love to ride an e-bike everywhere, but it’s insanely dangerous in SF.

@pmorelli @timbray as someone who bikes around SF (without an assist) for 19 years with and without kids on the back, I gotta say SF has never been safer for cycling than it is today. All the slow street improvements are amazing as well.

That said, there are huge areas that can still be better. This is partly what I’m pointing out, a lot of people fight these improvements in their cities and then folks won’t choose to ride because it feels unsafe to do so.

@timbray @bluejekyll there are so many places with good transit and bike already. But we just subsidize cars so much. I think we're way closer to a tipping point than many think, especially given widespread municipal insolvency. All the reason to push harder.
@bluejekyll @mekkaokereke I think it has more to do with a cultural love for cars than an actual dependence on them, because almost every disabled person I've talked to that needs them for disability reasons is still alarmed about the environment, and I know a lot of people who depend on cars because the US is built like that but really wish it wasn't so we weren't! On the other hand, the US especially has such a cultural attitude towards cars that *leads* to a lot of us depending on them
@bluejekyll another consideration is that the graph in the post you directly responded to shows that the major differences are race and gender. White people care the least, especially white men. I don't think white men need cars more than others, especially considering every other form of transit is way safer for a white man. Ask an able bodied cis white guy and pretty much anyone else how much they each need a car when it's a 10-15 minute walk at night.
@bluejekyll @mekkaokereke
There are exceptions to that. I accept Global Boiling is happening and it is caused by humans burning fossil fuels, cutting down treees, etc. However, due to the combination of disabilities we have in my family even wheelchair accessible buses are not suitable for us. Its I drive, we use taxis or we become housebound.

@AutisticMumTo3 @mekkaokereke of course there are exceptions, and we have so much infrastructure built around cars that we don’t need to be concerned with that going away in our lifetimes.

Again, like my other replies, if only the people who actually need to use cars were the ones to do so, we’d be in a far better place. The issue is that is not happening because people are blocking things like protected bike lanes discouraging more people shifting away from cars.

@bluejekyll @mekkaokereke
What I have a problem with is cycle lanes that are just painted lines on the side of the road (where you have to ignore its a cycle lane to avoid accidents) and too much car free zone (which then becomes inaccessible to many disabled) - I don't mind 20mph speed limits (its dangerous to do more than 15/20mph anyway through Romsey town centre due to pedestrians treating it like it is pedestrianised) so it should be one.

@bluejekyll @mekkaokereke For a lot of Americans, it's not just a belief. Without a car they can't a job, social services, childcare, groceries, or even see their extended family.

Most could probably _survive_, but only with help from other people who will all be like "please just let us get you a car".

Most people don't get to pick what infrastructure they live in. And when somebody tells them to "just stop driving" they're gonna dismiss that person as not living in their reality.

@bluejekyll @mekkaokereke Sadly, I agree completely with you, and that is as a car enthusiast & collector.

@run_atalanta @mekkaokereke car enthusiast’s probably want fewer people driving as well, since it makes driving more enjoyable.

My sense is there’s even a potential common cause here in helping reduce car dependence in cities especially.

@mekkaokereke @slothrop I wonder how much these numbers reflect who had power. Does perceived status (aka responsibility) drive the denial? It seems like it would but I’d love to see similar data with income and gender and other signals of status. People in denial about climate change might just be defensive about how much of it they’re responsible for.
@mekkaokereke @slothrop I'm alarmed that 'alarmed' is the most severe reaction they can imagine 😭
@mekkaokereke @slothrop As a white, Gen X male I’m honestly kind of shocked how my demographic specifically is showing up here. *Fewer* of us are concerned than white male Boomers!?

@mrbula @mekkaokereke @slothrop we’re fatalistic. ‘Everything sucks’ is the overwhelming world view of our cohort.

(I think that is oddly true even though things were never that horrible for us.)

@misanthropesq Very well may be true. It feels like a line may have been crossed from cynicism to something more like nihilism. The first can be a defense mechanism. The second is actively harmful.
@mrbula @misanthropesq I would love for someone to figure out why our cis-white-hetero-male group is so nihilistic.
Is it because we came behind the excess of the boomers?
Is it because we went through AIDS?
Is it because we still had the Cold War?
Is it because we can see that the world is going to shit for the next generation?
Is it because of the corruption without consequences of the Reagan years?
🤷‍♂️

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@slothrop

I'm seeing that white is exclusive of latinidad--are white latinos being grouped under POC? Are we being excluded from this graph entirely?

@mekkaokereke @slothrop this tracks with what goes on in Europe: climate denial is often aligned with nationalism.
@mekkaokereke @slothrop interesting (and sad). I'll have to read the article, but I'd assume these views are highly influenced by privilege (or lack of thereof)