Brewster Kahle

“The permanence of library collections may become a thing of the past,” said Jason Schultz, director of New York University’s Technology Law & Policy Clinic.

“I wish the publishers had not sued, but it demonstrates how important it is that libraries stand firm on buying, preserving and lending the treasures that are books.” -me, Digital Librarian

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/13/business/media/internet-archive-emergency-lending-library.html

The Case of the Internet Archive vs. Book Publishers

In the pandemic emergency, Brewster Kahle’s Internet Archive freely lent out digital scans of its library. Publishers sued. Owning a book means something different now.

The New York Times
Aug 13, 2023 at 11:38amWeb
Show threadChristian Pietsch (old acct.)Aug 13, 2023

@brewsterkahle

Knowledge about history may become a thing of the past? Is that guy trying to play a language trick on us?

Show threadΈλλεν Εμίλια Ά.ζ.Aug 13, 2023
@chpietsch @brewsterkahle I think it's more related to "publishers can basically sue libraries to evict books from their collections, depending on what should've only been technicalities"
Show threadlutomaAug 13, 2023
@brewsterkahle The Dream Was Universal Access To Knowledge. The
Show threadghostdancerAug 13, 2023
@lutoma https://archive.is/ONFvB
Show threadJan CibulkaAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle Glad we have an archivists https://archive.is/ONFvB
Show threadthomkennonAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle
Totally. Fuck the NYT and all its cohort of state/corporate propagandist monetizers of desire yo
Show threadGiglioAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle @cstross without affecting your post, hopefully here is the article lol https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/13/business/media/internet-archive-emergency-lending-library.html?unlocked_article_code=3ivyw_gfdwxqgujEYMO3v6WkrK6QxPVor4RpGUlOuzn2VkJOwLhJ-45L-zu-nWHILPrTMjEIw2k6fipPvB6f7hZyTWA5_8vp7jsUyI3h8oCsKZJg6DoLzSiNiFza1fY8dLvuawfufZcN1a_7uC5Q5z8RnYxVnRxDv4ITrLJVPy-trbwwtXpkAyUPVsipcEPcOsvNK8eCLzXHLWMfyisdsz5CH2WnNWNUgh0QalrR7zwHPBDz5AAOFQFVJxNQIQYOIM59lcfA4MGoaf_zTfgNb1TrhCd0q2n_5yxKtg4yUowc3Te69kGX0NIdQTwb85t0hkbfnKiydOmC2KJgYRTueXjvqp20Me_rUK-mo-XmnH2ZG4qjB9sT9RkhvQ&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
The Case of the Internet Archive vs. Book Publishers

In the pandemic emergency, Brewster Kahle’s Internet Archive freely lent out digital scans of its library. Publishers sued. Owning a book means something different now.

The New York Times
Show threadAccordionBruceAug 13, 2023
@giglio @lutoma @brewsterkahle @cstross
Thank you! 🗞️
Show threadSelzeroAug 13, 2023

@lutoma @brewsterkahle

Damn it.

Show threadguy,in,a,hatAug 13, 2023

@lutoma @brewsterkahle

absolutely right on.

Show threadRich Stein (he/him)Aug 13, 2023

@lutoma @brewsterkahle I don't know the NYT's fin ops, but it's true — and frustrating — that there isn't a better way to access articles of interest when they're paywalled. TlWaPo = most frustrating to me — Bezos could make it free online (marginal cost of new readers = 0), & he would not miss a cent. Instead, democracy does die in darkness.

Strikes me for other, smaller news outlets, a coop approach to access — e.g., wkly/monthly/per N articles subscription where you pick & choose might work.

Show threadMartinMcFlyAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle omg please charge your device 😱😱😱
Show threadJeffrey FisherAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle thank you
Show threadRFernAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle For those who don't know - if you want to access sites like NYT without a subscription, install uBlock Origin and disable Javascript for the desired site. It will break a few features but the articles will be accessable.
Show threadLaberpferdAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle
little hacking tip:
try the page in text-only mode, with Javascript and CSS turned off
Show threadVeebsAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle re: the numptys downthread saying it isnt paywalled, yeah this is infowalling. I shouldnt have to surrender contact info to read a 'free' article. This is paid for with your information. This is not free, there is no illusion of freedom on this popup.
Show threadBoredomFestivalAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle lolsob
Show threadAustinAug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle you absolutely must plug your phone in
Show threadMark GrahamAug 13, 2023

@lutoma @brewsterkahle

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/08/the-truth-is-paywalled-but-the-lies-are-free/

The Truth Is Paywalled But The Lies Are Free ❧ Current Affairs

<p>The political economy of bullshit.</p>

Current Affairs
Show threadFred C. Trump (dead/deceased)Aug 13, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Show threadTiconderogaNo1Aug 14, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle
Conservatives: Journalists are the enemy of the people!
Liberals: I support journalists, but if they think they should get paid, then they are sellout corporate shills!
Show threadNihl L'AmasAug 14, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle I still believe in the.
Show threadMaria BustillosAug 14, 2023

@lutoma @brewsterkahle

You can access the NYT online through pretty much any public library for free

That's just what many of us, including leaders like Brewster Kahle and the Internet Archive, are working to protect

Show threadErnie SmithAug 14, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle To be fair, you also need a free account to check out a book on the Internet Archive.
Show threadAnders BorchAug 14, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle for gods sake!? Charge your phone already! That screenshot is giving ME anxiety over your phone running out of battery.
Show threadinkbotkowalskiAug 14, 2023
@lutoma to be fair, that's a good thing, given how that rag is hell-bent on getting vulnerable groups exterminated; why should any other reporting by them not be as biased
Show threadhannoAug 14, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle Universal is not equivalent to „free of charge“. And you need to charge your phone.
Show threadEmilyBirbAug 15, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle i mean the physical paper isn't free so like free access is more of a luxury item since these were paid content in the paper version??? idk how that works but like free seems like a deviation from the norm giving newspapers generally cost money irl
Show threadKeith V.Aug 26, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle but then the capitalists really love greed ... and so it goes.
Show threadJulianoëAug 27, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle @pomme_s the need to put in a fake mail adresse is not really "blocked access to knowledge" though.
Show threadDubiago 💫Aug 27, 2023
@lutoma @brewsterkahle Might wanna charge that battery 😂
Show threadDagnabbit, Pascaline! 💥Aug 13, 2023
@brewsterkahle It's all so depressing. For so, so long I looked forward to a world without money (no bartering either) where people simply go to the supermarket and take what is needed, and where value lies in what you do for society. Everyone is at the same level, no one is 'rich' or 'poor' and people are rewarded with benefits instead of money. This would relax society so much. I am afraid this life-long dream won't pan out since I don't know how long I have left, it would have been beautiful.
Show threadKevin LeecasterAug 13, 2023
@brewsterkahle
Most people don't realize that the Library of Alexandria wasn't destroyed in one big fire, but just slowly decayed because of lack of support.
Show threadColes Street PotholeAug 13, 2023

@brewsterkahle For folks who don't have access:

"Free vs. expensive is a struggle that plays out continuously against all forms of media and entertainment. Neither side has the upper hand forever, even if it sometimes seems it might.

“The more information is free, the more opportunities for it to be collected, refined, packaged and made expensive,” said Stewart Brand, the technology visionary who first developed the formulation. “The more it is expensive, the more workarounds to make it free."

Show threadColes Street PotholeAug 13, 2023
@brewsterkahle I once worked for a university press—even with university support, we had to monetize written scholarship to keep the lights on, and it became a nasty business. Today, I work for a nonprofit that publishes scholarship online for free—and we are routinely approached by academic publishers looking to monetize our free content by including it in their course adoptions and charging for it. I am torn.
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Show threadColes Street PotholeAug 13, 2023
@brewsterkahle On the one hand, letting them include our content in their broadly distributed product gets us exposure and brings attention to our writers—the writers themselves almost always wholly support granting permission. On the other hand, monetizing content that is freely available online and pretty much forcing students to pay for it seems like perpetuating a predatory model. No matter which choice we make, there is a downside.
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Show threadCarolleisaAug 13, 2023

@brewsterkahle The manuscript writer scribe #library #publisher e-archive reader student muse musician recording ancient text:
Who owns #information #knowledge
the internet culture truth

the past present and future?

Show threadSteffen ChristensenAug 13, 2023
@brewsterkahle Alas, the dream of universal knowledge is 0aywalled for me.
Show threadLisPiAug 13, 2023
@brewsterkahle Jason Schultz sounds like corposcum.
Show threadlaissemoienpaixAug 13, 2023
@brewsterkahle Thank you, and that really stinks.
Show threadMysticetiAug 14, 2023

@brewsterkahle

I wonder if any of the people crapping on the NYT right now would also be OK with burning down Ivory Soap factories just because the soap isn't free and 100% pure