What's a 'dirty word' that you hate hearing when it's used to describe something or someone?

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What's a 'dirty word' that you hate hearing when it's used to describe something or someone? - Lemmy.world

I hate the word ‘Consumer’ or I mockingly call it ‘CONSOOMER’. Because that’s to imply everyone in the world is just cattle, but with wallets. We’re no longer customers. We’re consumers now. And a consumer’s purpose is to consume shit, whatever is put out there. Got money? Shut up and consume, it’s what corporate interests and capitalism itself thrive on. Consume and consume.

Influencer. Plain and simple. I hate when i hear it on tv, when someone calls themselve like that ugh.
I find it quite useful as warning that you’ll now hear about the opinion of a moron which you can safely ignore.
I call them freelance advertisers.
Exactly, how do people get ‘influenced’ anyways? I think it says something about people following them and thinking them ‘influencers’ are nice and likeable people. They often ignore other’s privacy and aura.
I use it as a derogatory term. Content creator is for the people who create content that is imo valuable. Influencers I use for the type of person who makes content to sell as space.
Content is another one of those words. If you make youtube vidoes, the stuff you make isn’t just some generic random “content” goo. It’s videos, right?

Not all videos have actual “content” tho. Reaction videos for example are just videos another person created while the uploader shoves their face into the camera and grimaces a bit. Or compilations, which are just a lazy no-effort way to bulk-repost stuff other people made. Or these bullshit “X movie in full length” videos that are 2+ hours of just displaying a download link.

I would not call these people “content creators” IMHO, even tho they do, in fact, create and upload videos.

(This is just my personal opinion tho, nothing “official” in any way)

I call them leeches.

reaction videos along with influencers are some of the most idiocracy-themed crap that humanity managed to come up with

can’t wait for the inevitable ‘ow my balls’ streams so we can all watch and 'bate

sounds genuinely more interesting than sssniperwolf saying “OH MY GOD” to yet another stream of tiktoks

I think pure reactions evolved from shock emotion videos ( See Barbara encounrr a Reaper Leviathan for the first time ) which is a shitpost version of punking videos.

I appreciate some informed take videos, such as a chef watching The Menu and sharing inside knowledge.

A lot of the time they also have a podcast, instagram, and/or live stream to Twitch, often to the same audience. So “content” is the catch-all for all the output together.

It’s a bit clunky but for whatever reason it’s the term which has stuck around.

I still hate it.

We already had a generic catch all word for creating in all of those mediums, and it’s called “media,” so it didn’t even necessary to label it content.

What if we started calling these people Independent Media Producers or IMPs for… oh wait no.
Imperial Military Personnel.
add a G word in front and were cooking
Well, they could be considered Global, Independent… or perhaps Generally Independent… and so on.
Agreed. The best way to describe my feelings towards the terms “content” and “consumer” and especially “contäent consumption” is that it sounds… decadent and sad. Is that really all you feel? The movies you watch, art you experience and videos you watch, they’re nothing more than ““content”” to be ““consumed””, to temporarily distract you until the next bit of “content”? Nothing more?
When you put it that way, it sounds even more revolting.

content comes from the same work-production space that copy does (as in written prose, not as in Xerox). It’s stuff that is regarded as product for consumers

This is shop talk that shouldn’t be used out in public, but we have the internet now so it leaked and is part of the common parlance. Sadly, it does belie the perception of content as product, rather than art or otherwise the result of a creative, generative process. And it does belie the view of viewers as money cattle that have to be coerced into buying, strangely independent of the workforce they don’t pay enough to be able to buy and enjoy their own products.

There was an OSPod (Overly Sarcastic Productions), and Blue mentioned how they’re content creators, not influencers. Red then corrected him that the correct term is artist.
If there is an artistic part to the content the sure. If someone is reporting news I’d say it’s more akin to a journalist for example. Or a comedy show I might call a performer or comedian. But sure I know content creators who make set as well. Good point.
I think “content creator” is almost as bad. It’s so nonspecific and assembly-line sounding.

I see content creator as a developer of social media content, especially video shorts like on YouTube and TikTok.

There’s some intersection with developers of short form movies and television, but it’s definitely its own field and they know each other and mostly respect each other… and miss Lindsay Ellis.

I think in most cases, you can replace it with advertiser as that’s usually what it is…

When I first heard the term it was on that Black Mirror episode about the star ratings affecting people’s real lives, and I thought it was just an appropriately creepy and dystopian term made up for the creepy dystopian show. Then I learned it’s what those people actually called themselves and it’s so gross.

If your job title literally means “I convince people to want stuff I have” you probably need to get in the sea.

Yeah the whole influencer thing came too late. We have curators (people who find cool stuff and rave about it) and then critics (people who look at multiple offerings in the same category and give a measured take on each, sometimes comparing and contrasting.

But for most mechandise the most accessible voices are the ones who are bought by marketing departments and are obligated to give positive reviews. Curators now push the stuff they were paid to push. Critics are paid to give positive reviews, so to the viewers and readers, we can’t expect a fair assessment.

Not that this is a new phenomenon, but these roles had long been generally known as corrupted and biased before anyone called themselves an influencer, so I suspect the role is closer to Only Fans accounts that sell small amounts of lover / partner engagement to lonely people. Influncers are non-premium OF with ads and no nudity.

Before the internet critics were in magazines or on tv, paid for by advertising some of the products they review

It has always been so

Absolutely. I remember a lecture in th 80s that described junketeering. A photograhy reviewer would get invited to Tokyo for the review of a new Cannon $500+ lens (in '80s dollars!) includiing a week of sightseeing and fancy meals and would get to keep the lens! You can bet, given a choice of raving about the lens and getting to go next year, or offering a measurd opinion and risking getting uninvited, they would choose the former.

Post internet, even casual hobbyists know about press junkets and scoop rockets, so when the AAA wizard game gets 9.5/10 on gamespot, it no longer means anything. (Novices and grandparents buying computer games for their grandkids will still believe the reviews, though.)

I follow a car YouTube channel “Auto Expert John Cadogan”, he’s now an independent commenter in the car space, but he used to work for a car magazine and car tv show.

He talks about the junkets and really enjoys telling his viewers how bad the brands he used to have to support are. I think he’s on YouTube because he has the money and time and misses being on TV, he’s clearly not paid by any of the car companies

Knowing how it works you see it in online reviews - a 3d printer guy when reviewing never says anything bad about any of the brands that send him early release new printers, because they’ll stop supplying him if he doesn’t praise their new machine

I wish we had a good term. “Content Creator” is meaningless and allows vapid instagram and tiktok people to slip in. Film maker has some serious connotations with Hollywood and movies that will give people the wrong idea. Media creator kinda works, but it isn’t specific to what type of media. YouTuber is strongly coupled to a corporation, so that sucks. Memeist? Video maker?
social media personality
Are you a 10 years old?
“Customer” in a healthcare setting.
Well at least health care hasn’t started using the word consumer yet!
Consumer = customer stuck on treadwheel.

People have been called this in the cosmetic and otherwise effective space for a very long time.

Because that’s what they are.

They avoid using that term and instead use “patient” but these are patients of money extracting procedures regardless.
I haven’t seen that in healthcare settings yet. Just curious what context it was in specifically.

“Try Hard.”

It’s the dumbest of all insults. You seriously are gonna talk shit about someone who is doing well at the game because they are actively trying to achieve victory? And that’s the best you can come up with? Get the fuck outta here with that.

They are talking shit because the try hard was probably an asshole.

Lmao what? Have you ever played games online? The recipient of the trashtalk isn’t “probably” an asshole. People talk shit unprompted especially when they get killed by a better player.

Also everyone who is worse than me is a casual and everyone better is a try hard.

I got called a try hard in tft recently. It seemed so moronic especially at a silver elo because I’m just playing to have fun not be min maxing

I don't think it refers to effort level alone. It's about doing obnoxious, unfun things to get marginal (at best) advantages.

For example, the only game I really still play multiplayer is Madden. If I hold a dude to 4th and 15 and they go for it, I know damn well it's going to be a boring shitshow of a game until they rage quit. They're going to turn it over on downs because that's not a convertible play, I'm going to get an easy touchdown, they're going to be even more stupidly aggressive on the next possession because now they're behind, and it's going to be a blowout where I'm just waiting for them to quit because there's no way they're going to play it out for a whole game.

That's a try hard. Someone just winning and making intelligent gambles isn't.

I don’t think it refers to effort level alone. It’s about doing obnoxious, unfun things to get marginal (at best) advantages.

Nearly every time I’ve seen someone using the term, it’s against someone who isn’t even talking and just playing the game better than the dude who cried “try hard.”

It’s only more recently I’ve seen a trend of younger gamers giving it this other definition, which I’ve never actually seen used in a game session.

It's been a thing forever (well over a decade). You're playing a casual pickup basketball game and one dude is diving on the ground for loose balls near other people's legs and playing really grabby defense? People will notice and say shit.
Devs use it in the software industry to describe the people who work excess hours and weekends to try and impress somebody, when it was unnecessary. And all it does is make normal people look bad for just doing a reasonably regular amount of work. If you’re going above and beyond all the time, that’s no longer going above and beyond, you’ve just pushed out the goal post for what is normal

At the same time they’re saying “I’m not a try hard. I could beat them any time I want but I choose not to”. GTFOH loser

“Nerd” is used similarly for kids who do well in school.

I’ve lost count on how many times I got called “Try Hard” and “Sweat”…I kill one guy what, twice in CoD?

I’m too damn casual for today’s high competition games. How tf can I be a try hard when I’m either playing against AI or jam single player RPGs?

I was also once playing Leauge practicing skillshots. I was in the zone and hitting everything with great tempo and out of nowhere comes a sore loser, “try hard.” Bruh, do you know what having fun looks like?? Lol I took it as an unintended compliment 💅
Bimbo. In German, it’s the N-Word.
Oh yeah man, this is sooo weird!
Isn’t it, technically, the b-word?
Yeah, that confused the heck out of me
In english, its a brand of bread