As belts tighten, corporate #opensource evolves—further and further from the ideals of Free Software.
Partly due to bad actions by "freeloaders," but also companies putting too much value in building code, and not enough on community and support. https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/hashicorp-adopts-business-source-license
I'm sure @bcantrill is could fill out a book now with examples of companies who are using parts of his "Corporate Open Source Anti-Patterns" presentation for a template...
Requiring copyright assignment, using anti-competitive licenses instead of open source...
@geerlingguy @dango_ One can trust the FSF not to use the copyright assignments to take a project closed source, but they can still use it to make unilateral licensing changes based on their own ideology.
They did it when the GPLv3 came out and, to me, it was a bad step.
The Linux kernel is the best example of why not being able to relicense the code is actually a good thing.
@bcantrill @geerlingguy @dango_
Why do you think you can trust the FSF? Sure today you can still trust them, but in 50 years they can be taken over by someone else with money who changes the license. GPLv4 might be just a little bad, then GPLv5 and GPLv6...
@bluGill @bcantrill @geerlingguy @dango_ I trust them not to go closed source, but I don't trust them not to go too far with their licensing (as I said).
I'd prefer if GNU projects had no copyright assignment whatsoever. Will that happen? Not likely.
If the FSF ever goes evil, there'll probably be early warning signs. And GPL code can't be retroactively relicensed in practice — it can, but only when distributing to new (and willing) recipients, turning the new license mute.
@geerlingguy Seems less of "not placing value on the community" as much as the code (or their exclusive hosting of it) is what's making them money. Companies who only sell support don't make a lot of money, except for Red Hat, and evidently it wasn't enough for them either.
Related question: does the MPL still apply to older versions of the software and source code with which it was bundled, or does this somehow retroactively affect the old code?
@blake It's an approved open source and free software license. It's irrevocable.
Unlike the GPLv3, the MPLv2 doesn't explicitly say "irrevocable", but it doesn't state any other grounds for termination than you being in breach of the license terms.
You received the software, you received a license to redistribute it. No backsies.
@geerlingguy Over the last decade or so, people's understanding of open source has drifted towards free software, where code is built and owned by a community.
However, the corporate expectation of open source has always centered around having a community contributing back.
Note the subtle difference.
This is true whenever a project is dominated by a single company. And even more so when it asks for copyright assignments from contributors.
This move is not surprising. Others will follow.
This isn't new #mysql had similar licenses before they switched to a opensource license.
This just showed how old I'm :-)
It are difficult times for companies that develop #opensource But this isn't a good decision IMHO. In the long term opensource will win as it allows users / multiple companies to work on the same product, So it's sad that HashiCorp is changing its business model.
You mean devolves.
@geerlingguy *nodds in agreement*
Were the #GPLv3 not ideological garbage but actually comitted to #FLOSS remaining #public, it would've chosen #PublicAccessibilit to code as priority over illegally demanding surrender of all #Patents and #IP.
In fact, #grsecurity #paywalling the code was the first warning shot, and when that went through, others like #Elastic and #MongoDB and now #RedHat saw that they could get away with #paywalls on #FLOSS...
It's sickening.
@geerlingguy Not that I doubt that companies want to make #money and that they want to enshure that no #GAFAM - espechally #Amazon - just yoinks their code and make a better #SaaS out of it whilst contributing 0 $ or code back into the project.
Stuff like the #SSPL & #AGPLv3 won't fix the issues - in fact they'd rather worsen the situation, only empowering the rich that can pay lawyers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Public_License
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