#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Stereotypical tour opener with a lot of mediocre and a few wow moments. In this case, the wow came in the form of an unexpected encore of rarities.

Not a great night for improv, but we’ll slot it in tier 3 on the back of the old school 2001 > DWD and wild encore.

Tier 1: <vacant>
Tier 2: <vacant>
Tier 3: MAGA Greek1

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

MAGA Greek 2
<big gap>
MAGA Greek 1

No tentpole jam, but so much great improv and fun playing throughout the night. Puts the lack of good improv on night 1 in perspective. Plus, another encore worth staying for (hope that trend keeps up). Even the Antelope seemed like it had one of the better peaks in recent memory.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

GA1
<gap>
MAGA Greek 2
<big gap>
MAGA Greek 1

Great setlist. And while you can quibble that Ghost never quite got there and the first half of Ruby Waves wasn’t great, you’d have to contend with the second half of Ruby Waves, probably the 🐐 Myfe, top 3ish Tube since 2004, great NMINML, and a surprisingly exciting Caspian.

Ps - Another mid-second set debut. Could tonight be the night Perseid (aka Forward People) makes an appearance?

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

GA1
<gap>
MAGA Greek 2
GA2
<big gap>
MAGA Greek 1

More up and down and flubbier than the previous two nights with some questionable setlist calls. But if you choose to rank this one higher on the back of the massive Tweezer, no argument.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: GA1
Tier 2a: AL2, GA2
Tier 2b: GA3
Tier 3: AL1

Switching to tiers bc there isn’t much differentiation. Phish has gotten very good in 4.0 at consistently delivering solid shows via a little of this & a little of that. The difference between the hits, the average, and the clunkers is not nearly as stark as it used to be.

Flubby and at times low energy night with a fairly forgettable 1st set, but then a largely dream setlist 2nd w/ great jams in Carini & Sand.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: GA1
Tier 2a: AL2, GA2
Tier 2b: GA3
Tier 3: AL1
Tier 5: NC1

A brilliant ASIHTOS (🐐 candidate) complete with some mesmerizing drumming kept it off the level of Charleston3, Grand Prairie, and Hampton1 99.

Still, between the tepid first set, everything post-Light in the second, and some out-of-control Trey vocal stylings, it’s one of the weakest shows of 4.0, and I have no doubt it will be joked about for years to come.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: GA1
Tier 2a: AL2, GA2
Tier 2b: GA3
Tier 3: AL1, NC2
Tier 5: NC1

Solid show with 3 nice jams and room for more until god—in an unprecedented move—made sure there wouldn’t be a repeat of the previous night’s fourth quarter by forcing the band to pull a Costanza and leave on the high note of Q3.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: GA1
Tier 2: AL2, GA2, GA3, PIT1
Tier 3: AL1, NC2
Tier 5: NC1

Hard show to rank. No true tentpole jam, but a lot of “a little of this and and a little of that.” Not a classically great setlist, but it was interesting and unpredictable.

Special shout-out to one of the few interesting Bowies since 2009. It almost crossed over in to need-to-hear territory, but unfortunately the 3.0 and 4.0 kids still have giant goooose eggs next to their stats for Bowies seen.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: GA1
Tier 2: GA2, GA3
Tier 3a: PIT2
Tier 3b: AL2, PIT1
Tier 4: AL1, NC2
Tier 6: NC1

Took a step back & reworked this a bit. The consistency of clear highlights each show combined with the consistency of not putting it all together each show is making this tour brutal to rank. All-time ER last night & rocking (if light on improv) Q4 but mostly lame S1 until Ass-handed. And while Tube & Ghost in the encore are exciting, each might be the weakest version of 4.0.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1b: Cuse
Tier 1c: GA1
T2: GA2, GA3
T3a: PIT2
T3b: AL2, PIT1
T4: AL1, NC2
T6: NC1

GA1 has the better S1. Cuse has the best S1 jam (KDF). Ruby Waves & Tweezer are close but one is Tweezer. Encores are even (though I’d take If I Could). GA1 doesn’t have Miss You so points there. That leaves Ghost, Flew Away, 🐐 Myfe & First Tube vs Suzy, 🐐 Oblivion, Wolfman’s & Possum. Probably give GA1 the edge there.

Going with Cuse #1 for now, but thinking it flips over time.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1b: Cuse
Tier 1c: GA1
T2: GA2, GA3
T3a: PIT2
T3b: AL2, PIT1, PH1
T4: AL1, NC2
T6: NC1

Gin covered a ton of ground quickly. Otherwise, lot of cringe (especially vocals) & not a lot of improv in S1.

Nothing in S2 got “there” except The Well which had a jam as good as the song is bad. More cringe vocals and several jams cut off as soon as they got going. Still, it’s hard to deny the blazing tempos and raucous energy as the band soared from ripcord to ripcord.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1b: Cuse
Tier 1c: GA1
T2: GA2, GA3
T3a: AL2, PIT2
T3b: PIT1, PH1, PH2
T4: AL1, NC2
T6: NC1

Man, I don’t know. The Carini was incredible and better than anything played Tuesday. But then the show kind of fell off a cliff (and even SYSF didn’t deliver a good jam). First set looks way better on paper than it is on tape. Show wasn’t nearly as spastic as Tues and had less vocal “stylings” but it was also way less exciting.

I don’t know. Nothing matters anyway.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1
Tier 2: GA1, Cuse
T3: AL2, GA2, GA3
T4a: PIT2
T4b: PIT1, PH1, PH2
T5: AL1, NC2
T7: NC1

Wave of Hope & Cities gave it more S1 firepower than any other show this tour. Ruby > Plasma > Simple & Melt gave it more S2 firepower than any other show. Not only was it a lot of improv, it was damn good improv—peak after peak after peak.

Despite all odds, a show with Evening Song, More, and My Soul in set opener/closer spots is now wearing the yellow jersey.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1
Tier 2: GA1, Cuse
T3a: BAMA2, GA2, GA3
T3b: MSG2
T4a: PIT2
T4b: PIT1, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2
T7: NC1

Gorgeous DWD but then S1 fell apart for a while. Likely the 🐐 Fuego (topping Mann 2014) and solid Oblivion (if not the MSG monster we were hoping for). Cool segue from 2001->HYHU. Overall, an up & down show with an uninspiring setlist, but the Fuego was so damn good + bonus points for the Fishman Rosie fun factor despite how poorly it was executed.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1
Tier 2: GA1, Cuse
T3a: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG3
T3b: MSG2
T4a: PIT2
T4b: PIT1, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2
T7: NC1

Weird show to rank. S1 felt like an all-time great first set but is less impressive (though still fantastic) on relisten. S2 felt like a bit of a downer in the moment (non-jammed Sigma & back-to-back breathers didn’t help), but sounds much better on relisten. Gonna put this one a notch above Sat on the strength of S1.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1a: MSG4
Tier 1b: MSG1
Tier 2: GA1, Cuse
T3a: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG3
T3b: MSG2
T4a: PIT2
T4b: PIT1, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2
T7: NC1

The only debate is MSG1 vs MSG4. While MSG1 **might** have a **slight** edge in improv, MSG4 is clearly stronger in setlist + has a monster encore. Setlist doesn’t factor nearly as much as play, but it counts. If you ding shows like NC1 for brutal setlists, you can’t say it doesn’t matter elsewhere.

MSG4 now wears the yellow jersey.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1, MSG4
T2: GA1, Cuse
T3: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG2, MSG3
T4: PIT1, PIT2, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2, MSG5
T7: NC1

Weak setlist and while there were solid highlights (like every show this tour), most of those highlights are fleeting and far less impressive on relisten. Hard to argue MSG5 being better than any show above it.

ps - Did some tier adjustments. The biggest is making MSG1 & MSG4 co-leaders. Solid arguments for either being show of tour.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1, MSG4
T2a: GA1, Cuse
T2b: MSG6
T3: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG2, MSG3
T4: PIT1, PIT2, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2, MSG5
T7: NC1

S1 was up & down w/o a big highlight. Best Mike’s since 1.0 & maybe jam of tour. Solid Sand->Crosseyed, but ALBTD killed S2’s momentum w/ Lizards not high-energy enough to get it back. Odd to hold Weekapaug for the encore only to drop an incredibly tame version. Giving slight edge to Cuse & GA1 based on S1s & more well-rounded S2+Es.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1, MSG4
T2a: GA1, Cuse
T2b: MSG6
T3: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG2, MSG3, MSG7
T4: PIT1, PIT2, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2, MSG5
T7: NC1

Fantastic Caspian. Epic Tweezer. Great Hood. Beyond that, the supporting cast isn’t nearly as well-rounded as the top shows this tour. Factor in ripcords + some unfortunate setlisting, and we’ll go tier 3 and call it a day—though it might be closer to tier Pennsylvania once dust settles. Great show, but the bar is high this tour.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1, MSG4
T2a: GA1
T2b: Cuse, MSG6, Broadview1
T3: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG2, MSG3, MSG7
T4: PIT1, PIT2, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2, MSG5
T7: NC1

Lotta win in Moma, Sand>RnR, Wope, and a sublime Simple. But maybe more important is all the songs they didn’t play. Not much down time all night (Ocelot is always better than its reputation, and the beloved 90s ballad in the encore slot can slide 😜).

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1, MSG4
T2a: GA1
T2b: Cuse, MSG6, Broadview1
T3: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG2, MSG3, MSG7
T4: PIT1, PIT2, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2, MSG5
T7: NC1
N/A: Broadview2

Very ordinary—if a little subpar—3/4 of a show. Then Trucks showed up in blue tights and a red cape with an 'S' on his chest to produce a legendary guest appearance—despite having quite an odd choice of songs thrown at him. Going N/A bc it’s senseless to compare to anything else this tour.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1, MSG4
T2a: GA1
T2b: Cuse, MSG6, SPAC1
T3: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG2, MSG3, MSG7, CO1
T4: PIT1, PIT2, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2, MSG5
T7: NC1
N/A: SPAC2

As always, when I’m at the show I have zero faith in my ranking. But this feels like tier 3.

Monster Carini, big Ruby, unfortunate ripcords of Mercury & WACTOOB. Best ripcord ever in SYSF for Tweezer. Huge Tweezer, ripping Light. SHITLOAF. Far from perfect but a lot of win and not a lot of loss.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1, MSG4
T2a: GA1, CO2
T2b: Cuse, MSG6, SPAC1
T3: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG2, MSG3, MSG7, CO1
T4: PIT1, PIT2, PH1, PH2
T5: BAMA1, NC2, MSG5
T7: NC1
N/A: SPAC2

::deep breath::

Best Dicks since 9/1/17. The only thing keeping it out of tier 1 is a solid but unremarkable S1 because S2+E was absolute Phish perfection where the sum is even greater than the parts. And if you think I’m putting it too high bc shows below it offers more, I have 3 words: walk off Melt.

#Phish Summer 2023 #RANKED

Tier 1: MSG1, MSG4
T2a: GA1, CO2
T2b: Cuse, MSG6, SPAC1
T3: BAMA2, GA2, GA3, MSG2, MSG3, MSG7, CO1
T4: PIT1, PIT2, PH1, PH2, CO3
T5: BAMA1, NC2, MSG5
T7: NC1
N/A: SPAC2

Explosive, high-energy show w/ some incredible, fast play spread throughout. It’s a testament to this tour that a show like last night is tier 4. But a lack of patience, a few unfortunate setlist choices killing flow & some borderline ripcords ultimately keeps this show from making the higher tiers.

@chopaganda BBQ Crow night with cardigan jamming. Excellent summary, enjoyed from the couch where I can lower volume for the howl parts. Bummed I wasn’t there to sign your sneakers! Life got in the way. 🍻Enjoyed the rowjenny IG post. Looking good!
@chopaganda I feel like you could split tier 3 into a/b, move up co3 to 3b and adjust a couple others. Other than that, co2 and msg1 are some of the best ph I’ve seen in my entire life (that would be 40 years) and spac1 and Syracuse I’d place up in 2a. Could also be attendance bias for all these but the deep exploratory shit that I look for are so heavy those nights. Would you say that 2023 is the toughest year to rank so far?
@velvetseawader Definitely the hardest year of 3.0/4.0. That’s for sure.
@chopaganda shocked you don’t have CO1 in tier 2, love that show. But agree that CO2>CO1

@chopaganda So here we are with two shows left of tour and not a single <gap> has shown up in your rankings.

And having listened to most of the shows, I’d have to agree. This may go down as one of the more consistently played summer tours in quite a while.

And if they lay an egg tonight or tomorrow, it’s not my fault!

@chopaganda

Last night was my 80th show, and it was an absolute smoker. Second set and encore was an actual Face Melt. Not sure where they go from here. We'll see!

@chopaganda your gif game here is a thing of beauty
@chopaganda 9/1/17 was absolutely amazing
@chopaganda looks good. I’d probably swap MSG4 and CO2. But I also don’t value first sets as heavily.

@chopaganda tier 1: all 2023 tweezers

Massive gap

Everything else

@chopaganda I didn’t mind the ripcords in Brains and Mercury at all. I thought the jump into Ruby was a clear sign it would all be resolved there. (And was) I’m fluffy on ln. The stakes maybe lower at the pool :)
@chopaganda what does shitloaf mean
@chopaganda I think this is pretty accurate by the way . The mercury exit was weird. It’s like Trey thought the hell with trying on this one . If he really tried at all
@BilboBaggins @chopaganda I hear you. Props to Fishman for overcoming Marina Lumina malfunction and persevering!
@chopaganda he was outstanding. Personally think it may be the best sit in guest they’ve had. He blended in perfectly with the band. Honestly, the entire set was damn fine. Disease>ghost>2k1>golden age>ER was just pure heat.
@Phreba @chopaganda I agree. Was at the 2016 Nashville shows and for me, playin and west La were good and the rest of the set was kinda meh.
I was at 10/31/96 too but it was all so much and i was young and fucked up.
Id vote last night as best sit in. And agree that the set would’ve been a killer with or without Derek.
@ribeyesoftheworld @chopaganda also, 10/31/96 was so different. Having a guitarist of Derek’s stature out there is nothing compared to horns and percussion. For the record, 10/31/96 is one of my all time favorite shows I’ve seen. Outstanding!
@chopaganda the velvet sea encore is always a kick in the teeth. I'm still mad about the encore from N3 DC 2000 lol
@chopaganda GTFO with this “Broadview” shit dude ;)
@chopaganda Broadview?, can’t do it, won’t do it. 😂
@chopaganda Tf is Broadview 😂😂
@ry_storm My contract says I need to call it that.
@chopaganda do you call Deer Creek Ruoff Music Center too
@chopaganda somehow you ranking MSG 5 on the same tier as the Wilmington rain out show makes me feel better
@chopaganda Pennsylvania level? That’s wrong.
@Wolfenhaus Search deep, Wolfie.
@chopaganda @Wolfenhaus List is wrong in all the right ways! Love you Chop🍻Good times in house and from the couch this tour. Can’t wait to be snubbed again at Dicks! 🙌🏼🥰 #phish
@chopaganda Saying “the bar is high this tour” is pretty laughable IMO. Besides a few standout jams, there wasn’t a single truly great or elite show all tour. I’d give this tour a C or C+ grade at best.
@Bandino @chopaganda 7/28 was great.
@Backeasyjim @chopaganda No it wasn’t. It was a really solid show. Not great. Had some great jams but 2nd half of the 1st set is nothing worth listening back to. 2nd set opened with More and MITM and Melt aren’t worth listening back to. That Cities is the best jam of the whole tour though IMO.
@Bandino @chopaganda melt was really good lol.
@Backeasyjim @Bandino Don't get suckered by Bandino. All he does it troll, but he does it without any humor or cleverness.
@chopaganda @Backeasyjim I don’t troll. I just speak truth and disagree with Fluffs. I’m not trying to be clever--just a nuisance to those with bad opinions 🤣
@chopaganda well done. Imo MSG 4 should be moved down, Mann 2 up, and lol at MSG 5. It wasn’t a great show but lumping it with the worst of the Deep South is disrespectful, albeit funny.
@Backeasyjim @chopaganda Yeah I think MSG5 is a bit low. Definitely not a great show, but it was a legit interesting first set, and Cavern through The Well was solid. The fourth quarter was super lame but that’s a problem other shows have also had.
@Nolasox @Backeasyjim Cavern also sounded like garbage on playback.
@chopaganda @Nolasox @Backeasyjim MSG 4 and 5 are midsweak affairs. The collective linsanity has been breath taking!🙌🏼🍻
@Stoneycase @chopaganda @Backeasyjim I may not agree with Chop that MSG4 is T1, but man, it’s an incredibly strong show from front to back. Easily T2.
@Nolasox @chopaganda @Backeasyjim All in fun of course. But whence making the art compete, I have 4&5 well below both fridays and last night. Found them pretty flat. Whole run from the couch. Not bad by any means. Just in the “std/avg” realm. Similar to Mann, MAGA Greek, and NC2. My group chat friends have also elevated those midweek shows. Thus my collective linsanity comment 😹🍻
@chopaganda are you planning to include SPAC and Dicks in Summer 23 rankings?