Barbara McVeighAug 4, 2023
Mother Bones

From @mallorynoepayne:

"Hi, good morning.

Just a reminder that Hitler led a failed coup, went to jail for it, came out to an exhilarated base, consolidated support from right-wing politicians, then walked into power.

All while the media gave him continuous coverage."
9:12 AM · Apr 4, 2023

[🧵 PLEASE read the short thread before replying to me OR the OP, I am getting testy!]

https://time.com/4192760/hitler-munich-excerpt/

How Adolf Hitler Turned a Year in Jail Into a Step Toward Power

Read an excerpt from Peter Ross Range's new book '1924: The Year That Made Hitler'

Time
Aug 3, 2023 at 10:18pmWeb
Show threadGreg StolzeAug 3, 2023
@_L1vY_ OTOH, Geoff Dahmer got murdered.
Show threadOtownKimAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Sounds about White
Show threadpaulAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_
Show threadBill HowardAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Unpardonable if convicted. Full stop.
Show threadJorge StolfiAug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_

But Hitler was 34 when he attempted the coup. Trump was 75.

Show threadJL RobersonAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Hitler wasn't almost 80
Show threadBathsheba BlueAug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_

Anything that broaches an argument for not convicting him isn’t of interest to me.

There must be accountability.

Hitlers little beer hall putsch wasn’t anything on the order of what trump did.

Show threadAriaflameAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ He wasn't 77 when he went to jail though
Show threadZorro Notorious MEB 😡Aug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Just a reminder that Hitler was 35 when he was released from jail and 56 when he blew his brains out.
Show threadZorro Notorious MEB 😡Aug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_ Is Trump dangerous? Yes. Does he have the power Hitler had? Fuck NO!

At least two Republicans are running for President on an explicitly anti-Trump platform, and it wouldn't surprise me if Pence joined that club. Yada yada polls yada yada Trump will have the nomination before a trial starts. It's all bullshit! Polls are bullshit.

Show threadZorro Notorious MEB 😡Aug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ *And* there are six un-indicted co-conspirators that cannot be offered witness protection because their faces are plastered on national TV. Their best shot is to do what John Dean et. al. did - turn state's evidence for a reduced sentence and find God in prison. If they try the G. Gordon Liddy approach they'll die in prison.
Show thread🌹 JD McKeehan 🌻Aug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ I remember learning that by watching a 3-part miniseries on the History Channel called The World Wars. It was a very good series.
Show threadEscapeGoatAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Fortunately for our country, if Trump is convicted he will most likely die in prison.
Show threadNick CocklinAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ I dare say that Trump is going to jail for a lot longer than a year.
Show threadPrior Industry 🇺🇦Aug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Fortunately McDonald's and mother nature might handle the problem by the time he's released.
Show threadAnders ChristensenAug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_
Many differences between Hitler and Trump here.

Hitler got a five year sentence, but only served nine months. If he had served a full term, he might have faded away from public view.

He was treated as a celebrity while in prison, like 40 guests at his birthday.

And he didn't exactly walk from the prison gate and straight into power, there were eight years between those events.

While the prison was part of the myth, it didn't automatically catapult him into power.

@maelduin13

Show threadCat WestAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ And Hitler was 30 yrs younger (or more) when he did all this. TFG goes to jail, he’s done.
Show threadAmanda HugankissAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Hitler was younger than Trump is the only good spin.
Show threadxs4me2Aug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_

In 1924 he was age 35 and rose to power at 44. Died in 1945 age 56…

At 77 Trump is running out of time (fortunately)… he has only one chance at 2024.
Lets avoid him getting there…

Show threadLukefromDCAug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_ Either Hitler or one of his goons said they only way to stop his party would have been to recognize it for what it was and "smash it wirh utmost force" right at the start.

That tells us to come after the MAGA GOP with everything we can throw at it

Show threadBugGeneratorAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ but if he doesn’t get punished, then the analogy will be Hitler’s appeasement.
Show threadtroutishAug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_ hitler was 34 and competent when he went to jail. Trump is 77 and practically incoherent. He can barely string a sentence together.

The two are not comparable situations. Additionally, Germany was a *brand new* democracy at the time with weak institutions having just escaped from monarchy post WWI (1918). It's institutions were weak and much more open to a simple take over.

The institutions of democracy in the US are centuries old and have survived repeated civil wars and an attempt from a sitting US president to prevent handover in the past election cycle.

I don't think they're at any risk of Trump coming out of jail alive (except perhaps into a care facility), let alone into any form of political position ever again.

Show threadTyler DurdenAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Jesus H. Christ. This is scary.
Show threadSir David NielsenAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ @lisamelton lesson learned, what Trump did was treason, which is an offense which carries the death penalty. I am against said punishment, but I would be willing to compromise for life in prison. As it is, he is looking at potentially hundreds of years in prison. If he can walk into office after that, then I say we have bigger issues.
Show threadMackajAug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_

Oh, I didn't know that. Hopefully Trump will get a minimum 10 year stretch inside for all the convictions he's facing. That should put him out of the picture for long enough.

Then you just have to worry about the next rat bag who'll step up to replace him.

Show threadDavid P. CareyAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ difference is Trump will not survive a ten year jail term.
Show threadFlemlightAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ Sounds like the media of today. Trump has been rewarded by the media with TOO much publicity. Billions of dollars for the 2016 election. The media TODAY gives trump more coverage and POSITIVE, I must add, than they do the current president Joe Biden. Something is seriously wrong. The media needs an attitude adjustment. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Show threadSaanichGuy 🇨🇦🇨🇦Aug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ but never won a majority! Important lessons on #trumpisacriminal
Show threadCharles FultonAug 4, 2023
@_L1vY_ can we please not make these comparisons? Hitler was a young man, led a coup against the state government of Bavaria, and got a slap on the wrist from a sympathetic court. It was also a century ago in a different country. This comparison undercuts the seriousness of both situations.
Show threadMugsysRapSheet Blog ☑️Aug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_
But we have something the Germans of 1938 didn't have:

...an Adolf Hitler to compare him to as a warning (also, the German economy was reeling from The Depression.)

Show threadNebulous Menace (Sandy B.)Aug 4, 2023

@_L1vY_ Trump, personally, is unlikely to survive any length of time in jail*. On the other hand, Melania and I have been continually disappointed by the actuarial tables for decades.

* according to an unchecked internet source, "each year in prison reduces an individual's life expectancy by about 2 years."

Show threadFrances LarinaAug 6, 2023

@_L1vY_

Say, didn't Trump used to keep a copy of, "My Struggle" next to his bed?