Apparently there is a hiring manager who refuses to look at resumes unless even twenty year old positions have full descriptions with them.

I'm exhausted. I've been told for over a decade NOT to put that stuff in because it's too wordy and will get my resume round filed.

So I have to hunt down old old resumes to remember what I even had there.

Between that and the rush rush rush on this one I'm getting very wary.

I'm talking to the recruiter this morning -- the positions in question are one that's 20 years old and was an intern position, one that's 13 years old and only on there for the job title as it was three months (reorg due to Act of Congress, shit you not), and they were in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FIELD.

My gut feeling is either the hiring manager already has someone in mind and will reject anyone else OR whoever was vetting the resumes saw a female name and balked.

Vetting person is also female. However, solution arrived at was "just remove those two from the resume" which I'm good with.

(Also I don't feel like explaining to employers that one of the the companies in question was apparently repeatedly investigated by the OIG and I was the 11th person in that position in ten months, turnover was so high.)

@catbailey Is it worth it for this one position? There are a lot of hiring managers that have their weird little rules about resumes so they can reject them easily without any work or thought on their end.

It seems like that wouldn't be a great manager to work for.

@bumponalog I'm pretty desperate and it's remote... And this is what they're telling the external recruiter. Rather, the person who vets resumes before the hm sees them is telling the recruiter.

I'm wondering if a masculine name on the resume would get the same response.

@catbailey nothing I did 20 yrs ago is even remotely relevant today.

@eljefedsecurit @catbailey I keep two resumes - the chonky "here is everything" one for publishing online (LinkedIn etc.), and then a trim one-page one I submit to jobs, which links back to the big one online. No idea if it's a good strategy, it's just what I do.

When I've been a hiring manager, I've enjoyed having full resumes available as a topic of conversation in the interview process rather than as a demonstration of qualifications. Although I interview anyone who properly applied, which I can tell from the cover letter, so I'm probably weird.

@catbailey i am strongly suspecting it’s an excuse they made up

@jerry Same; it's apparently what the person who vets resumes before they're officially submitted told the external recruiter talking to me.

The positions in question are literally a different field and one was three months and is only on the resume for the job title.

I wonder if a male name on it would get the same response... Are resumes with just a first initial generally accepted or trashed?

@catbailey well, it seems worthwhile to try.

@jerry Yeah. But...my alarms are going off.

It IS a .gov job. But still.

Which sounds more like "probably a guy", C Bailey or C.C. Bailey?

@catbailey I would go with C Bailey. You aren’t being dishonest and if you think this isn’t the position/organization to try experimenting with, that makes sense.

@jerry I may make it my generic for all resumes.

Also remembering that my last job appeared after I shortened my name on LinkedIn to something unusual but gender neutral to masculine Italian. May be time to do that again.

@jerry Changed it going forward -- on resume and LinkedIn both, and LI pronouns are now they/them.