Mastodawn

> but it can get toxic here.

surprise, after all it's the internet! ..

btw
I only experienced discussion and mention of CW in english languageand on mastodon.

This is an international fediVerse how do we put that into context?

Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾Jul 30, 2023

@jesuisatire @kissane I have no idea lol. Are you saying that internationals are not as concerned about CW posts? I am ok with that personally. I don't think we should impose CW on anyone.

I guess I'm trying to say that this is a problem of the US and/or anglosaxons and their of spring and their for actually has nothing to do with mastodon and much less with the fediVerse.

Actually actually, to be more precise, it's reasonable to consider that refugees from "toxic twitter" from the past have become confronted with new first class twitter refugees that want their twitter back, a place the others tried to left behind.

Different communities.

growing pains ..

@kissane

Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾

@jesuisatire @kissane you mean importing US cultural values to Mastodon?

That's definitely an issue of this wave into the fediverse.

The twitter outrage is a english and mainly US thing.

Spanish twitter doesn't care.
German twitter not to much and germans aren't into fb/tw and aware of the big brother problem from a different angle.

Also, this is and was build by the coding community.
They developed this and adapted their stream to the tools like filters.
Coders pee themselves over any kind of "[" to many as it breaks the code.

Elizabeth Tai | 戴秀铃 🇲🇾Jul 30, 2023

@jesuisatire @kissane Yea I feel this too. The Twitter and Elon is a Nazi discourse doesn't really happen in Malaysian circles either. It's amusing to read at first but after a while it gets really tiring 😅at times I do feel like retreating into typing stuff in bahasa Malaysia just to keep a separation but there are hardly any Malaysians here so...

> but there are hardly any Malaysians here so...

Everyone is just "using" the internet because "it's for free".
That includes politicians who actually should protect their citizens from exploitation of their data and privacy by totalitarian monopoly, even worth, from another country.

They are all dancing while the band is playing on the titanic and Musk (who is neoliberal fascist scum) just took over the wheel of one ship playing iceberg search.

And also it became a save space for all the people that fled toxic twitter and for example stupid politics war. That's why lot's of LGBTQ people complained, and people from the spectrum (coding community), for example about "eye contact", or visualy disabled trying to maintain the alttext best practice established.

Like a little garden with well reasoned particular rules for marginal groups that gets invaded by a hoard of woodstockers.

Don't get me wrong.
We want "you" here and we created this because it's the only possible setup for a diverse internet with freedom of speech and a chance for democracy. There is no other option, by design, for a multicultural world.
and btw
that means the only path to escape the rule of US hegemony (or any other) of the internet.
In other words:
All odds and existing winning power structures and interests are against us.

(and actually the X refugees don't care about that)