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"This is the standard method that the Netherlands uses to prevent people from driving through a neighborhood, and they make the streets safer and more enjoyable for everyone who lives there."

Also basically the only solution to traffic, and will still be the answer, no matter how much time we waste wishing for some other option.
#BanCars #Bollards #ModalFiltering #BikeTooter #trafficEngineering #ontvlechten #stuffInTheStreet #CompleteStreets #VisionZero @notjustbikes

https://youtu.be/ymcBC7MFRIk

Amsterdam Just Closed their Busiest Road

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@enobacon @notjustbikes The interesting question for me is, where do those cars go? And presumably that's one of the questions the planners are trying to answer.

It won't work if people who would have come into town just stay home, or if the cars clog up some other road. But hopefully neither of those is true.

Jul 26, 2023 at 2:13pmWeb
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@fishidwardrobe the cars mostly just vanish. Half of car trips are under three miles. If you make it easier to go without a car, people will take that option. This is known as #InducedDemand or #trafficEvaporation - every bike ride in Amsterdam would have been a car trip (driving to the gym even.)
Show threadclimate voter/degrowthistJul 26, 2023
@enobacon @fishidwardrobe Frankly, I don't have a lot of faith that this would be true for most Americans. Just my anecdotal observations and I would be glad to be wrong about this. We should make it easier without a car regardless but I am skeptical about that having a big impact on this pervasive and infectious car culture we live in.
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@tmstreet @fishidwardrobe this is the carrots vs sticks question but currently we're using the carrots for people who drive and sticks on those who ride a bike. US cities are losing money on every mile driven though them, so even if some people "stay home", we are winning. Just making it nice to ride a bike won't shift those choices but driving sucks a lot already, imagine if we didn't even try to coddle drivers. IRL, coddling slightly less is enough.