YoBuckStopsHereRepublicans Are at War With College Towns. And They’re Losing.
beccabobenRepublican redistricting and gerrymandering intensifies
I thought I read over a decade ago the main strategy in Republican campaigns is to convince young people to just not vote. As it’s easier to convince someone not to do anything than it is to convince someone to do something for you.
Republican solution: Raise the voting age and disqualify students voting in their college districts (force the students to return home to vote).
Maybe some sort of requirement that states you must own land too?
I’ve played enough Victoria 3 to know that returning to landed voting after universal suffrage is not a good idea
You can get all of your rights back of course, if you agree to submit a special voting form that only contains the republican candidates.
A lot of that land is owned by corporations. To make it fair, we should allow them to vote was well.
OverzeetopCorporations are people too…
Delaware House approves bill allowing business entities to vote in town's municipal elections
State House lawmakers have approved legislation authorizing a small town in southern Delaware to allow business entities, including corporations and limited liability companies, to vote in municipal elections. Lawmakers voted 35-6 on Friday for the measure, which was sent to the Senate on the final day of the legislative session. The bill authorizes a charter change for the city of Seaford, one of more than a dozen municipalities in Delaware that already allow nonresident property owners to vote. At least four of those localities allow corporate entities and trusts to vote in municipal elections. Others restrict such entities to voting in special elections such as annexations, referenda or bond issues.
There’s a 30 acre plot of woods for sale behind my house. Somebody should buy it and sell 1 square foot blocks of it to people for something like $5 each.
Yeah, I know it’s not truly viable, but it would be awesome if it worked as a tactic to land ownership clauses.
This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥Like those 'buy land for lordship 'scams?
There’s been a not-single-digit amount of arguments from the right lately that only people that pay taxes should have a vote because they’re the ones putting skin into the game.
Its like no one on the right ever picked up a history book.
We did all this already. We decided as a nation that it was dumb and moved on.
ShakeThatYamIf all taxpayers can vote then a lot of young people who can’t currently vote would become eligible. Also, so would most non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants. What conservatives don’t realize is that most undocumented immigrants pay taxes (and generally get back less than they pay).
I think that the idea is likely those who have a net payment into taxes, rather than having it covered with credit or deduction. That might backfire though due to ultra wealthy tax avoidance.
They have a primary candidate by the name of Vivek Ramaswamy who wants to do just that, raise the voting age.
Republicans are at war with young people in general. It honestly looks like they are actively TRYING to lose as much of the youth vote as possible:
Young people deeply feel the existential dread of climate change. Republicans still deny the basic facts about it, and fight all attempts to mitigate it.
Young people understand that their lives have been destroyed by student loans at rates and amounts unheard of in the past. Republicans not only have ZERO empathy, here, they are actually delighting in cruelty about it. They actively tried to add RETROACTIVE interest charges to student loans as we reach the end of the pandemic loan freeze, on top of their efforts to make it virtually impossible to have loans forgiven for public service.
Young people are less religious than ever, while the right wing is using the court to turn us into a theocracy.
Young people have progressive attitudes about LGBTQ rights, and the Republicans are centering their 2024 campaign on a contest of the bigoted they can be in this area.
The medium term goal is to get rid of voting entirely
bush 2 was the revelation. They don’t even need to gerrymander to manipulate the electoral college if they can just get it in front of a court that will side with them. trump was openly counting on that but couldn’t even run a close enough race to take it to the courts. And that is why they are continuing to do everything they legally can get away with to insist on “election fraud” and the like. Same with insisting “the United States is not a democracy, it is a republic”.
And because so many Democrats continue to rather re-litigate Bernie 2016 rather than focus on local elections? It is just a matter of time.
Counterargument to this, from the viewpoint of the gqp:
America is getting older, so the boomer vote ends up counting more. Young people don’t vote.
stephfinitelyWhile I agree those that vote are getting older. The reason young people don't vote has nothing to do with not wanting to vote, it's the GOP constantly change the rules and places of voting.
Young people not voting has been a cliche forever. This really is nothing new, unfortunately. Its actually been getting better in recent elections but still is one 50%of 18-25 which is low. And republicans know this.
While I agree with all this, the issue is that young people in general are also some of the least likely to go vote. Who cares if you lose the support of a block who isn’t going to vote anyways.
We’re seeing a slow rise in voter participation but even in one of our most active elections ever (midterms 2022 had a whopping 52% participation!), <35% of eligible youth (18-29) actually voted compared to ~58% of 45-64 and ~68% of 65+.
It’s really sad to think about where we could be if just 50% of the youth range had voted in 2020 and 2022, might have had Dems in control of both the house and senate.
New voter turnout data from 2022 shows some surprises, including lower turnout for youth, women, and Black Americans in some states
The 2022 midterm election results made plain that the predicted “red wave”—in which Republicans were expected to win by huge margins in the House of Representatives and take over the Senate—did not occur. In fact, Democrats gained an additional Senate seat, and while Republicans took control of the House, it was by a modest nine […]
Young people have jobs
Old people are retired.
Voting is on a Tuesday.
One of the underlying reasons for turnout is pretty simple.
In quite a few states, including mine, we have a pamphlet sent out with all of the people you’re voting for, a picture of them, and their statement of what they’re going to do. You can vote any time and drop it off or mail it in by a certain date to be sure it gets there. You get a tab that has a bar code on it to check if it got there. Every state should have this, this should be federally mandated.
Yes - Vote by Mail is an absolute win for democracy. It’s no secret why the GOP rabidly opposes it.
That said: It’s also difficult to demand at a federal level.
The US Constitution delegates running of elections to the States, though it does allow Congress to claw back that delegation “by appropriate legislation.” You saw some of that regulation in various things like the Voting Rights Act. Congress, if it had the political will, could pass laws to declare how elections are run in all 50 states.
It would be a hard-fought battle, though, and eventually end up in the Supreme Court, which, these days, would laugh, rule 6-3 against it, and say, “Whatta gonna do 'bout it?”
The realistic solution is the long-term one. Everyone needs to vote, not once every 4 years, but in every election, and especially local elections. City, County, and State elections matter more. These are the races that govern your day-to-day lives. Stop electing Republicans to local offices and start electing people who respect our form of government and have, at least, a modicum of honesty, or enough shame to keep their corruption under wraps were we don’t have to know about it.
I agree with everything you said, but honestly we have to try. If we try for the federal level, then everyone will at least know about it. I don’t think some states know enough to fight for it.
It’s even worse than that. In my state, some polling places are in the lobby of retirement/nursing homes. My polling place is. I have to drive/bike a mile to vote while Gertrude can just roll her Rascal scooter into the elevator and go vote for the loudest person on her TV.
irkliFkn vote like your life depends on it. It does. Call on sick if you have to.
EhListYou cannot be prevented from voting. Your job can be held liable if they try to stop it.
Which means exactly nothing in an at-will work environment like most states in the US
What? Voting is on a tuesday. Why on earth is that?
www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/7
Because that’s when the last days it is.
It’s Tuesday because a bunch of farmers had to travel a long way (2+ days) to the town for polls, and we can’t have them miss church on Sunday.
fiahhistoric reasons. Of course one party will definitely fight tooth and nail against any attempt to change that
It’s always on a Tuesday.
Middle aged people turn out to vote and they also have jobs. You do not have an excuse for not voting unless you are physically prevented, eg your town placed voting machines on the second floor of a building with no stairs and you are in a wheel chair, or because it is your conscious choice to not support either candidate.
There are absolutely people who are prevented from voting if the location is too far and they don’t have a car. That’s part of the argument that voting locations shouldn’t be at college campuses. Students there are much less likely to have a car and therefore can’t go very far. One politicians argument was literally that the college students would roll out of bed, vote, and go back to sleep.
Closing polling locations and forcing mass amounts of people to use one location is also a valid reason. Not getting time off is a valid reason. A lot of people in the restaurant service industry work double shifts days in a row, especially in management rolls that can easily add up to the entire early voting period. Disallowing bussing from churches does disenfranchis people, primarily POC, which is the point.
There’s a reason Republican politicians enact these things. Because they do prevent people from voting.
Who cares if you lose the support of a block who isn’t going to vote anyways.
It sure looks like Republicans care a lot about making it harder for them to vote. Wonder why, since Democrats keep saying they don’t vote. That certainly couldn’t be a bogus justification for not supporting progressive policy that would appeal to younger voters, could it?
I’m sick of Democrats whining about young people. They’ve literally never voted at high rates, the fact they you’re even entertaining the idea of 50% turnout is pure fantasy.
The fact is that zoomers vote at higher rates than every other recent generation did at the same age. We wouldn’t have won 2020 without them. Yet Dems still come on here and shit on them for God knows what reason.
It’s almost like some people are trying to depress turnout with how much pointless whining they do about everyone under the sun… except the DNC and incompetent establishment leadership of course.
Why wouldn’t I complain about my fellow peers being slacktivists and not voting? I vote. I encourage my peers to vote. But so many can’t be bothered and then turn around and complain when the GOP wins and passes shit/blocks good legislation. I refuse to be content with <35% turnout just because it’s better than the past. It’s not enough to outvote the older generation which trends conservative, so it’s not enough for me.
Bitch about the DNC suppressing just about all truly progressive candidates who would be more likely to get out the younger vote. It’s not like voting takes place (or doesn’t take place as it may be) in a vacuum.
Oh 100%. I wanted Bernie so bad and won’t forgive them for what they did in 2016 or 2020.
But bitching about the DNC suppressing progressive candidates and bitching about young voters not voting are not mutually exclusive activities. Pretty easy to do both.
Even if people are turned off by the modern DNC, the alternative are fascists. By not voting you’re indirectly supporting the fascists. That’s why we ended up with 4 years of Trump and then barely a majority for the Senate. Now we’ve lost the house. If dem voters could see the bigger picture and hold their nose and vote, we would be in a much better place to be pushing for progressive policy instead of just trying to defend basically civil rights.
TwoGemsBest solution is to go to the voters physically and get them registered. Setting up on college campuses with local voting groups or even setting events in high schools who are going to have people turning 18 for voters groups.
Maybe Republicans can inspire young voters to vote against them, since Democrats consider appealing to young voters to be beneath them.
Joe Biden is at least trying to do SOMETHING to reduce student debt.
Not enough, but something.
He is indeed. Biden is persevering on both student debt and sick days for rail workers. I’ll not fault him for either. Both are commendable. He needs to crow a lot louder about both. Particularly the sick days, since everyone got to see Biden the strikebreaker and too few people even know about the sick days.
He’s not only trying, he’s trying again. He’s not just giving up forever after encountering one little setback.
I wish more Democrats would show the same level of persistence.
I am sorry I had trouble getting over Biden saying interracial marriage is wrong, like what did he do for me? Oh not be Trump? Like its feeling like people vote for whatever, i know soooooo many people who would vote for Trump over Biden, but voting Kanye is just stupid 🙄
I am sorry I had trouble getting over Biden saying interracial marriage is wrong
When did Biden say that? I haven’t been able to find a source.
nymag.com/…/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarcerat…
Lol my downvotes show how right I was, choosing between geriatric racists is more normal than voting Kanye because hes “crazy”. People will see dogwhistles in everything but where they actually are.
You claimed he was against interracial marriage. The article you linked never mentions it.
You are not “insert race here” if you do not vote for Biden, enjoy your platform
You got called on your lie and now you’re flailing.
Who you voting for?
Still trying to distract from how you lied, huh?
There is no lie, I just don’t have a soundbite for you, please tell who you would vote for? And/or your opinion on Kanye West, the whole start of this convo, because I think its insane people rather fight for status quo than real change like how someone defending Biden’s racism might be interpreted as bootlicking, or worse suggesting Trump is better cause he isnt Biden.
There is no lie
This is:
I am sorry I had trouble getting over Biden saying interracial marriage is wrong
Biden never said that.
I will not participate in your attempt to change the subject.
Your mum
There’s a lot to bitch about as far as Biden goes, which makes it even more weird when people make up fake shit to be outraged about. I felt the same about Clinton.
They’re fascists. Their only goal is to seize power at any cost. Future elections may be the only chance to stop this, honestly.
tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺Their wont be future elections once they have consolidated power. The problem isnt just the republicans being fascists. It is also the democrats appeasing them and being happy with their economic policies. From the outside the US elections look like a choice between outright fascists, and a far right party with lgbt rights.
As long as the incitors and enablers of the 6th of january insurrection are still not in jail, because prosecutors are too afraid of angering them, then you will lose. You cannot win in an election against the violent criminals that don’t recognize election results. You can only win by prosecuting them for their crimes and tucking their leaders away for good.
Found the fox news viewer
I’m continually in awe at how somebody can still insist climate change is a hoax in 2023 💀 Like damn you haven’t even moved onto the downplaying stage you still think it’s outright not real?