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Logan Five ThousandI’m just curious, which category would you put yourself under?
(Please boost for greater reach.)
Neurodivergent
Neurotypical
I don’t know.
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@LoganFive @static completely unsurprised that neurotypical is at 0%. I expect you could asked a million people and still end up with the same result. No human believes they're typical.
Briala@skribe @LoganFive If someone is neuro-typical and knows what the term means, they will probably self-identify. My sister, for instance. But that's largely because we've had conversations about me being neuro-divergent (recent diagnosis), whether our parents were (we think one was ADHD and the other ASD) and if her kids are (we both suspect her son is).
emurphy42@static @skribe @LoganFive I would've liked a more nuanced set of options. I'm not *particularly* good at reading other people's emotions, but I'm hardly incapable, and so on.
seananigans@skribe @LoganFive @static I would suggest that people who find mastodon tend to be techy or more into their hobby or craft. These types of people are on average more likely to be neurodivergent than not.
Adam Williams@skribe @LoganFive @static It seems to me that "I don't know" should be much higher; as what % of the population has been evaluated?
@static @skribe @LoganFive Yeah, this has been a thing all the way back to the Slashdot days; many people into 'tech' seem eager to classify themselves as divergent - or the equivalent lingo of the day; it used to be self-diagnosis of Aspergers.
This phenomenon would be an interesting research topic.
This phenomenon would be an interesting research topic.
@whitemice @skribe @LoganFive I've wondered on and off for years if I was neuro-divergent, but online quizzes were always inconclusive. So I never claimed it. And I've been a programmer for decades.
I get the feeling that self-diagnosed people who are actually ND can be hesitant to claim it. It usually didn't bring a lot of benefit to do so. Kind of still doesn't.
About 18 months ago I realized about half of the ADHD memes I saw I would react with "Hey! I'm like that! Oh..." So I went to my GP asking for an ADHD evaluation. The psychologist I saw was sure within half an hour. The psychiatrist I saw was sure within an hour. It's mild, but definite.
I now have tools to look at ND behaviour. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one in my team who is ND.
@static @whitemice @LoganFive yeah, never rely on online quizzes. Self-assessment is fraught with misdiagnosis. Consulting a trained professional (or six) usual delivers the most accurate results.
Paleoautist 🏳️⚧️ ♾️@LoganFive These results honestly don't surprise me. I suspect NDs (like me) tend to be drawn to the same spaces.
Charlotte Walker@LoganFive @CommonMugwort Depends on your definition of ND/NT. I have self-diagnosed dyspraxia, and formally diagnosed bipolar. Some ppl include mental illnesses under neurodivergence. So IDK
Artemisia Vulgaris@purplepadma The question asks you to classify yourself, so it’s your definition that matters
@CommonMugwort I guess I don’t feel comfortable using that term - would feel like appropriation
@purplepadma Hey, I’m not here to tell you what words to use about yourself, but I’m not sure appropriation applies to anonymous polls whose results don’t matter. That word feels to me like a community judgement about material harm.
@CommonMugwort I was only using it about myself and my insecurities
@purplepadma I know : ) Seems a shame to internalise something like that.
@CommonMugwort I know, I know… and I am the first to tell people they should use the word “disabled” if they feel it’s right, and that it’s not “appropriating” from people who are “really” disabled. But I’ve never been good at taking my own advice
@purplepadma Oh, honey. Who is?
@CommonMugwort Fair point 
undead enby of the apocalypse@purplepadma @CommonMugwort I feel that, I (who has adhd, anxiety, and weird sleep issues) am proudly neurodivergent, but very hesitant to call myself disabled, despite knowing these do count as disabilities and I’m having a lot of trouble in my everyday life doing things that are easy for other people because of them. I guess I just keep feeling like I would be taking something away from disabled people if I called myself that, despite rationally knowing that to be untrue.
@enby_of_the_apocalypse @CommonMugwort It took me some time to accept the label “disabled” but now I do so personally and politically. I have had whole decades when I couldn’t work, but even now I can that is always on a knife edge and could change at any time. And I only achieve that through reliance on ongoing medical treatment. UK law is quite clear that only functioning if you take essential treatment still = being disabled by your condition
PirateRo@LoganFive I don’t see takes frequent naps…
Toni Aittoniemi@LoganFive constantly scoring on the borderline, hopefully gives me insight, but makes me weird for both groups! 😂
Sander van Kasteel@LoganFive I filled in "I don't know.".
Especially because some neurodivergent people around me say "You definitely are neurodivergent" and some neurotypical people around me say "You are definitely neurotyptical".
Something, something, mixed signals 😂
Addie 🏳️🌈 (They/Them)@SuitedUpDev @LoganFive so which is it?
@addie @LoganFive I don't know 😭️
@LoganFive @SuitedUpDev if it helps, there is no one way to be neurodivergent, neurodivergent is a wide umbrella term that includes so much more than just ADHD and autism. For example it also includes mental illnesses.
@enby_of_the_apocalypse @LoganFive Yes I am fully aware that "neurodivergent" is an umbrella term.
My younger brother for example, has been diagnosed with PDD-NOS (also an umbrella term but than for autism subtypes) many many years ago. But I also have friends that are neurodivergent ☺️
My younger brother for example, has been diagnosed with PDD-NOS (also an umbrella term but than for autism subtypes) many many years ago. But I also have friends that are neurodivergent ☺️
emma@LoganFive My neurological functioning is so broken it would be mocking myself to call myself "neurotypical".
But I'm not neurodivergent in the ways it's most often understood and used, so it would be misleading to nearly everyone if I used it for myself.
But I'm not neurodivergent in the ways it's most often understood and used, so it would be misleading to nearly everyone if I used it for myself.
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Théotime@LoganFive
I answered "I don't know" because I think I might have ADHD ( or similar) but I don't trust myself enough on this to to be sure
I answered "I don't know" because I think I might have ADHD ( or similar) but I don't trust myself enough on this to to be sure
David 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️NB they/them@LoganFive I’m positive I’m ND and would love to find out for sure but I don’t have health insurance right now. The American healthcare system is just wonderful.
🥥 Tucker Carlson's Nuts 🥥@LoganFive @SailorDisco self diagnosis is ok too, if you are pretty sure of your neurodivergence then you are neurodivergent.
@LoganFive @SailorDisco diagnosis can be useful if you need it for something, for example I got a formal diagnosis of my adhd so that I could get help with some issues that arise from that, mostly executive functioning issues. If you’re unsure if you are a certain neurodivergence it can help to seek formal diagnosis, but those can also be wrong about you and also I’d keep in mind what advantages and disadvantages that formal diagnosis can have (cost would be a big one depending on your healthcare system, other ones would be discrimination, there are some diagnoses that are so stigmatized that they may lead to you facing discrimination in medical settings)
Outiinteresting results, ie people who put themselves into neurotypical category are a very small group. really not typical.
i know mastodon is a niche thing atm, many minorities and atypical folks here, i know, and it may skew this hugely - but i do wonder whether more people actually fall for neurotypical category.
...unless this is similar to eg high blood pressure - most people who live modern lifestyle and esp over a certain age don't have natural level of bp but exceed it.
Admin@LoganFive socialist ;)
Atomic Shadow@LoganFive Is "fucked up and weird" not a choice then?
Lance, Enjoying Copious Pollen@LoganFive I prefer the human category.
Walter Thinman@LoganFive neurotypical, but most of the people in my life are neurodivergent and I find a lot of their thought processes and feelings relatable.
FirefighterGeek 
We all believe we're unique and special.
It's called the Forer Effect (aka the Barnum Effect) and it's why things like "cold readings" and other fake mystical bullshit works so well.
There's an awesome and easy to do group experiment that proves it.
Barnum Effect | Psychology of Self-Deception & Misattribution
Barnum Effect, in psychology, the phenomenon that occurs when individuals believe that personality descriptions apply specifically to them (more so than to other people), despite the fact that the description is actually filled with information that applies to everyone. The effect means that people
@FirefighterGeek @LoganFive I’m pretty sure many people here said they were neurodivergent because they actually are. Neurodivergent is a pretty wide umbrella term and from my experience mastodon tends to be a place where neurodivergent people gather.
@enby_of_the_apocalypse @LoganFive Well yeah, that's probably true. It is for me. I've been "medication supported" for a couple of decades and I'm not that unusual.
Still, I think without distinction, most people don't consider themselves 'typical'. The DSM-5 is pretty specific on most of its symptom lists, that while many people match many descriptions, each should only be considered if it is significant enough to impact the way they live. Otherwise, we'd all be self diagnosed.
Mrinappropriate@LoganFive Of the results stay this way, does that mean that the neurotypicals are the new neurodivergent?
@LoganFive That feeling when you think you’re normal and click the button but then begin to panic and wonder if you selected the wrong option on the poll.
@LoganFive Except I prefer "neurodiverse" because "divergent" is just an academic's word to call us "weirdos."
CromleyI thought I was neurotyp until an exchange with Slice last night
Paul Cantrell@LoganFive @writerethink
I personally appreciate the rise of these general terms, since none of the standard diagnostic categories (autistism, ADHD, etc.) seem to fit me, but I’ve always felt the discomfort of the way my brain works not fitting social norms. (My adolescent peers certainly let me know it!) “Some as-yet-unnamed neurodivergence” sums it up so nicely.
I personally appreciate the rise of these general terms, since none of the standard diagnostic categories (autistism, ADHD, etc.) seem to fit me, but I’ve always felt the discomfort of the way my brain works not fitting social norms. (My adolescent peers certainly let me know it!) “Some as-yet-unnamed neurodivergence” sums it up so nicely.
WraithGear@LoganFive thats a lot. Its hard to say what’s divergent, vs. what is the scope of neurotypical. For me, i am basing my selection of divergent on the fact that when i was in school, i was placed in remedial, standard and gifted classes at the same time, not exactly sure what it meant, but what ever it was, it’s not normal and they had no idea how to deal with it.
spherulitic@LoganFive “neurotypical” is a strange word because it’s not a typical description of anyone I know.
Sjaak K. 🇳🇱🇪🇺🍋@LoganFive
Neurotic?
Neurotic?
Charles Herold@LoganFive NueroUndiagnosedPeculiar
Lewistrick@LoganFive In the process of being diagnosed 😊
Ellie@LoganFive Neurospice and Wolf.