@mcc if I could only prevent *one* corporation from establishing a foothold in this space, it would be Meta (based on their track record of awfulness).

That said, I don't relish the idea of *any* corporation gaining substantial traction here.

@mcc great polls, thank you for doing them!

FYI @matthieu_xyz -- this is somewhat consistent with the results in your poll at https://calckey.social/notes/9eykz5xkqk

@mcc @QuietMisdreavus I predict threads never federates

There’s no need to at this point. They’re far bigger already and they don’t need to bump in users or headaches in joining fediverse

@mcc That is absolutely how I landed on it. I was very willing to learn that Actually, Tumblr Is Just As Bad, and my reaction to that would be 'okay, cool, so no tumblr either.'

But facebook are a very clear, precedented bad actor who cannot be trusted.

@mcc Yes.

AFAIK Tumblr is not a wide scale global human rights abuser.

#DeleteFacebook

@mcc That’s how it is with me.

While I am against preemptively defederating with Threads for a variety of pragmatic reasons, they are still one of the very last companies I trust and we should tread carefully.

This isn’t a sentiment held solely by “anticapitalist” types. Not all corporations are bad, but this particular one certainly is.

@mcc Yeah. I feel like this kinda mentality is more harmful to the Fediverse than it is good, because we're overlooking the _net positive_ that literally owning your data while still being able to communicate with less techy people in the same way is.

Most people (wider audience) don't wanna follow Joe Bloggs who they found from a blog post with a Mastodon link on, they wanna follow their favourite content creator or something. Wider adoption is good because it invites innovation. :)

My 2c.

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Survey design and interpretation comment: the inference about corporate presence depends on respondents knowing (and being known to know) that tumblr is associated with a corporate entity. If it was spelled out in the question the same way as done for the Threads question, it would be a much more robust inference from the responses (and also might give different results to the way it was worded above).

@mcc @cstross people trying to promote *their own* art on here are harassed.

Wait till Tumblr get to the same stage as Threads and see if the numbers change.

I personally think social media company-level corporatisation will be vehemently attacked here *every time* given the treatment of indie artists.

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History has shown us repeatedly that when a large 'corp' enters into a smaller space such as this... it's intentions are not to 'join' but 'consume'

What they will do is play nicely to begin with. Then they amass the largest presence on the fediverse... and that's when they start making and pushing out 'changes' to the code that make it harder and harder for other instances to interact with theirs... unless they surrender that sweet, precious data.

It's what ALWAYS happens.

@mcc and to take it a step farther, It suggests that those users are happy to impose their own personal values on fellow users who might have other opinions.

I think that’s really the more important result here as it has broader philosophical implications beyond just this one question.

And I think it’s unhealthy and I think we need to call it out.