mccJul 5, 2023

[POLL] (Part 1 of 2— if you vote in one poll please vote in the other— if you boost one poll please boost the other)

How do you, personally, feel about an app owned by the company that calls itself "Meta" (the operators of Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, and now "Threads") soon federating with "Mastodon"/"The ActivityPub Fediverse"?

Opposed
36.3%
Alarmed
30.2%
Supportive
9.9%
Indifferent
23.6%
Poll ended at .
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[POLL] (Part 2 of 2— if you vote in one poll please vote in the other— if you boost one poll please boost the other)

How do you, personally, feel about https://tumblr.com/ soon federating with "Mastodon"/"The ActivityPub Fediverse"?

Opposed
6.8%
Alarmed
8.2%
Supportive
38.6%
Indifferent
46.5%
Poll ended at .
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Show threadmccJul 5, 2023
Note, I don't think text replies to this thread are helpful. I just want to test something specific.
Show threadmccJul 6, 2023

Results from this poll: With ~620 respondents,

66% are opposed or alarmed to "Threads" [Instagram] joining Mastodon/Fediverse.

85% are supportive or indifferent to Tumblr doing the same.

Here's why I made this poll:

It seems odd at first the Fediverse is all about connecting platforms but its users are so vehemently opposed to "Threads".

What this poll implies is Mastoverse users are *not* opposed to corporate presence in the Fediverse. This is a trust issue with Facebook *specifically*.

Show threadelmuerteJul 7, 2023
@mcc But are they actually joining, or is this the same bait and switch which was done with XMPP.
Show threadmccJul 7, 2023
@elmuerte It's interesting that the only real defense I've seen of Threads isn't even "they won't bait and switch" but rather "when they bait and switch, it won't actually have the ability to really harm us"
Show threadelmuerteJul 7, 2023
@mcc Mr Lovenstein made a comic about what the switch will be: https://tapas.io/episode/2889500
Read Mr. Lovenstein :: Against the Wall | Tapas Community

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Read Mr. Lovenstein :: Against the Wall
Show threadLisPiJul 7, 2023
@elmuerte @mcc The whole idea of federation fundamentally involves preventing the wall being able to keep anyone inside (to a weaker degree than a properly distributed system would).
Show threadelmuerte
@lispi314 @mcc Yes, but I don't trust the likes of BigTech not to pull up walls like they have done many many times before.
Jul 7, 2023 at 5:24pmWeb
Show threadLisPiJul 7, 2023

@elmuerte @mcc Oh they will.

But the main thing is they can't trap us in there with them. Most of us don't need social media for work or to do basic banking.

So unlike with email, we can absolutely tell them to get bent (it's possible with email too, but finding alternative hosts is a lot easier than self-hosting due to their gratuitously anti-competitive practices).