Apple: please don't buy Mac Pro. We don't know how to make it any more obvious. We pushed the price way up, we took out all the storage and RAM slots, and no longer support GPUs. We thought about doing more, but no consumer should ever buy or want to buy this machine. It is for very specific niches. We’d discontinue it if we could.

Mac Pro believers: …well maybe the *M3* model will double the core count and start adding features back in! And it will probably have a chassis redesign!

Apple: 🤦

@stroughtonsmith should we print more T-shirts?
@stroughtonsmith why would you subtweet Siracusa like this
@Kevin I think I have some MKBHD in there too
@stroughtonsmith I don’t understand why wouldn’t they discontinue it if that was the case. They can just… do it. They make the machine because they want to.

@stroughtonsmith The one niche I could see them filling with this, if they decide to go in on generative AI models, would be the ability to add additional M-series chips in the PCI slots

Eg, at next year's WWDC they announce "Core AI" which is optimized for making models that run on-device and the way you train those models is a Pro full of M2 Ultra cards.

I think the likelihood of these things is… low

@stroughtonsmith jokes aside apple chips are really good. Don't blame it. No competitor can achieve such performance with that power efficiency so far.

More efficient -> less heat and less throttling-> less fan and more comfort -> no noise...

@stroughtonsmith MacPro situation is weird to me... they released the redesigned one in 2019, barely few months before Apple Silicon transaction - they surely HAD to have a plan for this computer after Intel. I don't believe that Mac Pro team simply didn't know about Apple Silicon team effort & plans 🤔

My guess would be that something didn't really came out according to the plans (larger chips, that were rumored)

@stroughtonsmith Apple: here’s the Mac Studio for the people who need it and the Mac Pro for the people who need that. Problem solved.

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I can understand it not working with display outputs from a GPU driver, but do NO GPUs work, even as co-processors (such as for Machine Learning, Physics Compute, etc)?

@atatassault Apple Silicon macOS has no GPU drivers, and GPU drivers cannot be created without Apple's first-party support (as we saw with Nvidia's web driver). There is no API to build GPU drivers in modern macOS, either; legacy kexts need the user to disable a bunch of system security features just to install them. And as far as I'm aware no third-party driver, even if possible to build, could act as a system graphics, physics or compute processor without Apple's support and integration

@stroughtonsmith

LMFAO. "Here's all these PCIe slots. Oh, by the way, the things you'd want to use in them won't work."

@stroughtonsmith @lisamelton Mac Pro Users: Give us full parity with macOS for iCloud, iMessage, Airdrop etc on Windows & Linux, all the Apple infrastructure we need to access given we still use iPhones and iPads, and we’ll buy HPZ, Lenovo PX, Puget etc, and get out of your hair so you can do Macs your way.

Apple: …If I can’t have you, no one will.

@stroughtonsmith What makes you think they can’t just discontinue this machine?
@stroughtonsmith they’re probably doing things with it internally and might as well sell them.

@stroughtonsmith Well, Rotten Fruit Inc also added quite a number of little irritating bugs to macOS that make it clear that the Pro especially (but technically even the Studio) are not exactly very much in favour.

Generally, you are supposed to buy your hardware ("internal" at least) from your fruit vendor, and if you guessed wrong about your needs, you can sell back it back for scrap value, while rotten fruit will refurbish it, and sell it for nearly the full price again.