Nowhere GirlEvery "men and masculinity are in crisis" story basically calls men dweebs and losers for letting women and other people have rights and tells them they better start getting fascist if they want to be in the Cool Guys club.
Like, it's just super transparent.
"Dweebs and losers" is me being nice, by the way, as these articles and the accompanying artwork all but scream homophobic slurs at men who aren't toxic assholes.
It's Just Jenn 🏳️⚧️@gwynnion I stalk the psycho Trump fanboy website every now and again and I swear they can't go two sentences without calling somebody a "cuck".
DTrasler Writing@gwynnion Years ago, a parenting magazine wanted to do a feature on me, because I was a "Stay at Home Dad" and they wanted me to be photographed wearing an apron. Because obviously I was the male version of a stereotypical 50's housewife.
I said no.
I said no.
Orc@gwynnion (100% emoji)
You read the wapo article?
You read the wapo article?
Min Headroom@gwynnion I don't doubt there are many of this sort but all the ones I have read have been more of the line that "there is a way to break out of the shell of toxicity and join the modern world".
Nour 🏳️⚧️🍉@gwynnion they know nothing about real masculinity, and it's quite ironic that I, a trans-feminine person, often find that I understand masculinity much better than them.
I had some guy telling me "a man is not a man if he's not the one financially supporting his family", I replied by quoting this part and told him "This is weakness. You are a man as long as you say you are, now that is strength. Nobody can take your masculinity from you."
I had some guy telling me "a man is not a man if he's not the one financially supporting his family", I replied by quoting this part and told him "This is weakness. You are a man as long as you say you are, now that is strength. Nobody can take your masculinity from you."
Grassroots Joe@autistic_enby @gwynnion
It's such classic elementary school yard insecurity masking bluster.
How does what someone else sees or says define your worth?
It doesn't unless you hand that power to them.
Why would you do that?
It's such classic elementary school yard insecurity masking bluster.
How does what someone else sees or says define your worth?
It doesn't unless you hand that power to them.
Why would you do that?
Gorba@autistic_enby @gwynnion I would change masculinity to humanity myself, but I suppose that’s just me and where I sit on the gender spectrum.
For those that embrace it I would agree with you 💯
For those that embrace it I would agree with you 💯
dal@gwynnion "women will definitely respect you if you shower less and yell more and also take away their rights"
cwicseolfor (has moved!)@meamdalton @gwynnion Makes perfect sense if you consider fear and respect fully synonymous. Masculinity is reduced in those circles to nothing more or less than a dominance performance.
Passenger@gwynnion
This is such a good way of putting it.
It's like "we notice that men aren't up to the arbitrary bar we've set for masculinity", and instead of critiquing the bar for being arbitary, they critique the men for not meeting it. It's ridiculous.
@passenger Yeah. There's a lot to be said about the way masculinity is harshly policed amongst men (and even more so non-conforming AMAB people) with an eye to maintaining a misogynist, etc. social order. Basically: "Patriarchy cannot fail, it can only be failed."
Peter Kahn🏳️⚧️🇺🇦🇵🇸🏳️🌈@gwynnion @dgoldsmith patriarchy and fascism are dead ends with much suffering. We shall tear them both down eventually.
Yeray ✏️ ✂️ 🎲@gwynnion @Illuminatus what a wasted opportunity! We live in a time when the traditional role of men as providers-protectors makes no sense anymore, and instead of offering community these jerks offer harassment and societal enshittification.
"Oh yeah, the world went to shit, you'd better become a bully and an asshole, you soyboy beta". Great help, thanks, MaximumAlpha1488. The solace and growth I truly needed.
@carbonara @gwynnion @Illuminatus I have seen “soyboy betas” and women destroy the growling MAGA types in the open fight nights my mma club went to every Friday night for 2 years. Their world view is flawed in so many ways and causes untold suffering
Dizzy@gwynnion Real men don't shave electric :) That is my only life goal.
RRB@gwynnion I always noticed that if the facts were reversed, the "things aren't fair for men" crowd would use those same facts to prove that men are superior.
Nick's world@gwynnion @lisamelton Help me understand. I'm a man. This means I'm masculan. Is it now bad to be a man? I don't lord it over people that I'm a man.
@gocu54 @gwynnion @lisamelton no, the problem is in the definition of masculinity.
A definition of masculinity which has at its core the concept of dominating others and the superiority of men over other genders is false and wrong. A definition which says it’s masculine to destroy one’s self for no other reason than to do it (which serves others who take advantage) is false and wrong.
A definition where masculinity is a strength that helps loved ones and community is good
A definition of masculinity which has at its core the concept of dominating others and the superiority of men over other genders is false and wrong. A definition which says it’s masculine to destroy one’s self for no other reason than to do it (which serves others who take advantage) is false and wrong.
A definition where masculinity is a strength that helps loved ones and community is good
@Gorba @gwynnion @lisamelton Ah, so its not bad to be a proud man but its bad to use that to feel superior to other genders is not good? Got you. thanks. Sometimes, it can be hard as a man. you sometimes feel guilty for even existing because there are assholes out there who make you look bad as a gender. I don't want to intimidate people just by being a dude.
@gocu54 @gwynnion @lisamelton it’s the assholes like Tate Elon & others that make the gender look bad
@Gorba @gwynnion @lisamelton Andrew tate is a menace to society. He has made men bitter and hateful towards women because of his red pill bullshit. Oh, and the men going their own way movement. That is just an excuse to be more abusive towards women.
Darryl R Scott@gwynnion From what I can remember, I have been called the N-word by white people only twice in my life. However, I’ve lost track on how many times I’ve been called a f*ggot by men of different races. I’m not gay, but it didn’t matter. Toxic masculinity is very much a thing, and while it fucks over women, it also fucks over men who deviate from their rigid definition of what it means.
Lark LaTroy@gwynnion Funny how as a man, I laugh so hard at all these NeedleDick, whining, "Alpha Bros" with their silly posturing and attempts to be all caveman-like. They are a parody of a time and culture that never existed. It is my comfort in my own body and life that causes me to laugh so hard.
The Alpha Bros do not impress me, and I do not want to be like them. They are jokes, and jokes are for laughing at.
Why would you want to be a joke?
@larklatroy @gwynnion they usually are nothing but a negative for society