@geerlingguy I had to add to the thread just to say I feel ya! Your sentiment is exactly mine!
I still wouldn't say Oracle are good guys, but in this instance, yes
@mlippert @geerlingguy While #redhat may have completely bungled their message, having listened to some of their reasoning, it doesn't actually sound that anti- #opensource.
It sounds like they mainly want people to just use their upstream directly, instead of taking their curated release and having to strip out all the branding/etc. I think all that's added to #redhat is specific version pinning/testing and branding -- if that's the case, #oracle is just piling on misinformation.
@freelock @mlippert That's not how #opensource (free software) works, though.
That's called closing the valve at the end of the line, and trying to capture the value stream of free software.
With GPL, the idea is the software is free, and you provide value on top of it. They want the software to be free only insofar as it's free when it benefits them.
@freelock @mlippert @geerlingguy
Red Hat add some code and Branding to the Linux kernel, makes RHEL. That's ok.
Alma/Rocky makes a RHEL flavour. That's not ok?
That's like taking free food from a public food bank, labelling it as your original product while not distributing it to those in need and then selling it for a profit instead.
I *had* a lot of respect for Red Hat.
@abhijit @mlippert @geerlingguy What I've heard is they want people to fork off CentOS Stream instead of RHEL -- and they're not adding any code to RHEL that isn't already in CentOS Stream.
In any case I don't have a horse in this race, I don't use RHEL and don't care that much -- and generally I don't like seeing IBM taking over RedHat, or any of the long term changes that we'll probably see as a result -- but I do think the reaction to this is a bit overblown.
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