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Jesse Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter 👀

Robert Stribley Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter Super cool.

Number6

Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter Someday you'll be able to say, "I remember when they only had 2 users!"

LeRoc Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter The Netherlands don't have a government right now :)

Rachel Greenham Jul 9, 2023

@leroc @DevWouter probably how the civil servants behind this were able to get this done right now. so it's a fait-accompli when the next IT minister with Meta shares turns up

LeRoc Jul 9, 2023

@StrangeNoises @DevWouter Good strategy :)

Ed Sanders Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter more of this, please

Gina B Fla Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter
Now we're talking! I hope other government follows soon.

Werner Jul 9, 2023

@Ginafla @DevWouter
It sounds rather unbelievable (since in most IT things my country is really not avantgarde), but the German government is already in the fediverse for some time: https://social.bund.de/about
(Admin account since 2020)

social.bund.de

Dies ist der Mastodon-Server der Bundesbeauftragten für den Datenschutz und die Informationsfreiheit (BfDI).

Mastodon hosted on social.bund.de

@wvs @Ginafla

Cool! looking at the domain I can imagine the Dutch government copying the German government.

West Lawns⚡️Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter

Egor Kloos Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter As the Dutch government is pretty racist I can imagine it being much more of the same.

Olav Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter agencies,.not individuals at least for now. In the US i'd like to see a way for Congress people to have official accounts.

Misha Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter is dit echt? Ik kan er verder nog niks over vinden?

stfn

Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter cc @starfadet

Olga Pek Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter I read that as "beeherder" and was a bit confused and pleasantly surprised 😇

@olgapek

Let's hope it get some buzz 🤣

Braw ☕🏳️‍🌈Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter now they can disagree not only between themselves, but with masto users too!

Marcos Lobo 💙💛Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter this is the way

Blake Leonard Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter How come this is how I find out the Dutch government collapsed?

@blake

Let me spoil you and tell you that the government collapsed because one party was forced to become more strict over an issue they created.

Also, our political system works a bit differently. So "government collapse" can be seen as healthy.

Blake Leonard Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter From reading an article on it I do understand it means they're not doing any more rule-making, but they're still there doing regular everyday procedural things, so it's still alive and working, unlike (say) a US government shutdown.

@blake

Correct. The current cabinet consists of 4 parties, and they no longer wish to work with one another in the manner they agreed on 1~2 years ago. Dutch politics has always been about multiple parties working together, and we don't have a "strong leader." Instead, we have cooperative leadership.

It's a whole different system compared to the USA

Blake Leonard Jul 9, 2023

@[email protected] [comment withdrawn for code of conduct reasons]

@blake

Every type of democracy has its challenges. That being said, I wish the USA a lot of wisdom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XCw6FIqQTo

Job Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter

"[at]beheerder[at]social.overheid.nl"

"Mastodon beheerder"

"Functioneel beheer account t.b.v. de officiële mastodon instance binnen overheid.nl"

Dus dit is meer een soort systeembeheerder? Hebben ze wel genoeg boutjes/moertjes/stekkertjes/snoertjes?

De Huilende Rappers - Goeie Systeembeheerder (Verkleed Als Sukkel)

YouTube

@vanderZwan

Someone needs to install the software and create the first account. 😉

Tenkoman Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter After social.bund.de and social.network.europa.eu I waited for other EU governments to join.

Aaron Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter I hope the governments of other nations follow suit!

@energiepirat Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter While the government itself dissapears?

@energiepirat

No, the Dutch government is more than only the cabinet (the main, but not only, executive body). And cabinets that fall trigger an election, after which we have a formation and get a new cabinet (this is the very short version).

@energiepirat Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter OK; Thank you.

FallsMom 🌻Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter Thoughts @stux?

ˢᵗᵘˣ☕Jul 11, 2023

@FallsMom @DevWouter I've been trying to get them to setup that for over a year now

FallsMom 🌻Jul 11, 2023

@stux Probably George & Washy convinced them!

DevWouter Jul 12, 2023

@stux @FallsMom

Mission Accomplished!

Blair Thornton Jul 9, 2023

@DevWouter I wish Canada could do the same

Martijn Vos Jul 9, 2023

Good. Let's hope all the politicians abandon Twitter now. Twitter has been far too much an official channel for Dutch politicians and journalists.

Jeffery Seow Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter wow

https://www.staygrounded.online/p/what-if-social-media-was-a-public

Justin ⏚Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter ah that's very interesting thanks for sharing! I have been a big advocate for a publicly owned Mastodon-style platform for a while!

An Actual "Digital Town Square"

What might a publicly owned social media platform look like?

Stay Grounded

aethervision Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter Awesome! Can’t wait to see the Netherlands and Holland join them.

@aethervision

The people in the Netherlands are called Dutch. And Holland refers to two of the twelve provinces. 😁

aethervision Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter A likely story. More likely your country was trying to get out of a bad relationship and changed it’s name to avoid detection. I completely understand. We’ve all had that first marriage. Hell, we used to be married to the UK, not that you can tell from the language.

@aethervision

Yeah... About that...
Guess who sold New York to the UK? It was called New Amsterdam before.

And later, the Dutch provided the American Rebels with French gunpowder to make money and mess with the UK (which resulted in them declaring war upon us).

And it's not the first time we've done that. When the Dutch were at war with Spain, we sold weapons to our own enemies.

Like most European superpowers at that time we did terrible things.

aethervision Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter So…y’all like selling stuff and the color orange. Got it.

Jack Yan (甄爵恩)Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter Sensible country! Wish ours followed suit.

Kris Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter oh neeeeeee 😭

zeitverschreib ⁂Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter "Dataverkeer beperktProbeer het nog een keer na 08:20:00."

tomberuk Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter

radioactivestardust Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter please post a lot of pictures of how happy people are riding bycicles

@bookstardust

That would be the same as asking British people to post images of how happy they are when making tea. 😁 😂

radioactivestardust Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter Uhm, bikes do have a climate impact and make for good policy choices in a climate crisis. Tea is for the brits is pretty much connected to a colonial history. I would dare say there is a difference in happiness levels 😅

But I did also not really see that you just posted a link to the account. So that was my mistake, since you are not the person to address after all

@bookstardust

Haha, Nice save 🤣
And yes, I agree with you.

@beheerder Maybe also have an account that promotes the Netherlands by sharing pictures? It seems that photos of happy people on bikes are quite popular.

JR Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter Wait, it was those kind of migrants?

@Csosorchid

😂
I like to think that the #fediverse has a nice open-border policy.

(Context: The Dutch government fell over (im-)migration issues the week they launched a Mastodon server, most likely to migrate away from Twitter)

Agora Jul 10, 2023

@DevWouter didn’t they collapse?

@Agora
Only the cabinet (the head of the executive body), not the whole government. It just triggers a new election. It's more that most decisions (but not all) will need to wait until a new cabinet is formed.

Most cabinets don't complete their term. Dutch politics is mainly based on cooperation, and we have a cabinet consisting of multiple parties. So when relationships breakdown the cabinet no longer has a majority they ask the Dutch to cast their vote.