tante"AI is tragedy of the commons".
Shut the fuck up. Tragedy of the commons is a conservative meme to delegitimize public and common administration of resources without middlemen.
danmcquillan@tante also, the term 'tragedy of the commons' was created by a far-right thinker and promoter of racist pseudo-science https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/garrett-hardin
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@danmcquillan @tante pretty sure Churchill said something similar
jnfrd Jan@tante I think it is the tragedy of the commons. The commons never ever took back what was theirs. And they still don’t think about taking it back.
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Shine@tante How is that even supposed to work? Isn't "Tragedy of the commons" a FUD being made for the sole purpose of serving as an argument that private ownership of means of production is "better" than public one? If anything, problems with privately owned huge ML models is another thing that shows how much of a bullshit it is.
Felis Cat@shine not essentially - although that's certainly how some chuds apply it, you can equally argue for government regulation
@Sternness3985 Which is in this case again argument for "private ownership", this time in hands of government.
Either way, no one should take ecofascist Hardin seriously.
@shine government control of a resource is public ownership, not private ownership.
You're right about Hardin being a monster.
@tante that's very strange. The whole concept seems to argue exactly for significant middlemen to handle the resource.
yuri ilyinFrankly, the very same thing had been said about recording industry in early 2000s, with its purported excessive income at the expense of musicians and 'parasitic middleman' role. These days recording industry is screwed, Apple alone can buy them all, as it sucked up all the money, along with Google, and Spotify. Musicians still get $..it, and the overall shruff-to-art ratio tilts heavily towards the shruff, no?
Probably Paul@tante It's actually the valid observation, used in multiple sciences, that given unfettered access to a finite resource, some people will take more than they need, with common grazing land typically used as an example. The result is a tragedy for everyone.
This isn't an argument for libertarianism, but an argument against it.
This isn't an argument for libertarianism, but an argument against it.
Effective tool of Satan@tante In fact I thought that the expression referred to the privatization of said commons.
endarkenment@dalek_fan @tante that was in fact the real tragedy. Before the enclosures village commons were self governed and well managed, and had been for centuries.
Pomegranate County Irregulars@tante I thought the tragedy of the commons meant we need institutions to mediate private and community interests. Society of renters suck as does the libertarian/anarchist dream that we all get to do whatever.
13 barn owls in a trenchcoat@tante it's enclosure, if anything.
vriesk (Jan Srz)@tante, but the phenomenon does exist - it just doesn't have anything to do with the individuals overgrazing the common pasture, but rather with capitalist entities such as corporations and national states being able to get away without paying the full costs of what they grab; arguably, the most catastrophic one is what is causing the global heating now.
@tante The Common Good is often de-legitimized by conservatives.
This act to weaken democracy.
This act to weaken democracy.
Henry Edward Hardy"The tragedy of the commons" as coined by Garrett Hardin in 1968, refers to a situation in which overuse of common resources leads to a degradation of the environment for all.
It can also refer to The Enclosures in England, starting with the Statute of Merton in which the commons were privatized.
This is what the Diggers and Gerrard Winstanley were rebelling against in 1649.
A common treasury for all: Gerrard Winstanley and the Diggers
A common treasury for all: Gerrard Winstanley and the Diggers
John Storey tells the story of the 33 Digger communities, intended by Gerrard Winstanley as a first step in a revolution to change not just England but the world. Dug into the text is a poem by Fran Lock in memory of Winstanley, taken from Ruses and Fuses. On Sunday 1 April 1649 a group of between t...