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Craig Grannell
LotharHä? Why should poor North See be punished?
@LotharImSueden Think of it as feeding the fishes.
Caro Stamm-Reusch
Andreas K@craiggrannell Well, it's a benefit that your absolute sovereignty is feared so much, that the UK's GDPR clone is considered irrelevant?
Yeah, if you would rather not have any say, #brexit was a full success. Big international business simply doesn't care what the “sovereign” UK says.
@craiggrannell It's the small country dilemma, and that applies to the UK despite being almost a magnitude bigger than Austria. (Note that the UK is on a per capita base, about 1/6th poorer than AT)
Point is, and I experienced it as a teenager and student brutally, a small country, either has its own standards ⇾ which results in laughable little choice for consumers, or simply “follows” the norms of bigger fish.
And don't think you can enforce what that standard means on the global players.
@craiggrannell E.g. ÖNORMs have been traditionally 1:1 copied from DIN NORMs. So what exactly is the point of having them? Forcing a qualified person to go over everything to see if they are really 1:1 equivalent?
The Austrian Schilling has been tightly coupled to the German Mark at 1:7 since WWII. The one period where the OENB tried to be more flexible (literally by percent points) didn't work that well.
@craiggrannell And yes, telecommunications, there we had our "own" standards (mostly the same as the rest of the world, but using some different frequencies to communicate some information, and different phone plugs). So basically, the market for phones/small office PBX was handled effectively by a duopoly of two old Austrian companies. Exciting stuff! Or you operated illegally imported equipment.
@yacc143 It’s pretty clear the UK has fucked it. It had an enviable and smart position as a ‘bridge to Europe’. Now it’s adrift, with nothing. Well, nothing but theoretical sovereignty. Fun times.
@craiggrannell Yes, but the sad part is it was so predictable, but on G+ and dodo, the BrExiters tended always to point out how rich and big, and super important the UK is. And I just shook my head, and figured out that the EU represents about 7% of the Earth population, a rich part, but still.
Sadly, the saying “There are small countries in Europe and countries that have not yet realized that they are small” is very true.
@yacc143 They kept banging on about the fifth biggest economy (although that’s now sixth or seventh, which Brexiters don’t seem to note), as though that meant anything. USA/EU/China are so much bigger. Japan is, IIRC, 2x UK as well.
So it’s a bit like boasting about being the fifth-best men’s tennis player during the Federer era. I mean, that’s not nothing. But you’re way off the big three. (Which makes Andy Murray Japan in this terrible analogy. Oddly, that kinda works.)
@yacc143 What’s depressing is there’s no way out of this. My country fucked itself and it cannot recover. It will sit there for years – decades – moaning about the decision it made but glumly saying it has to make the best of it, when we could – with enough political will – be back in the EU by 2030. I suspect the UK will never be a member again – although some of its current component parts might.
@yacc143 We also have a delusion issue on both sides of the debate. Leave ones are obvious. But ‘rejoiners’ don’t seem to understand that the EU of 2016 no longer exists, that the UK will need to be a normal EU country and not try to carve out deals, and that none of this is in the UK’s gift anyway.
It’s all so frustrating.
@craiggrannell Although some BrExiter generals realized the critical red line: when A50 was finished. As long A50 was open, the primary renter in no10 just needed to send a letter to Brussels. No matter what Parliament wanted or not, might have censured HMG, the UK exploded in civil war, but the EC speaks with the member state governments, primevally. 1 minute after midnight, it's suddenly 27 MS that night to okay anything.
Dr Keith Walker@craiggrannell Once in they can be placed in CCS. Cretin Capture and Storage.
Dak@craiggrannell It's a benefit...for Meta, not for us.
Andrew.🇵🇸 ☮️ 🇺🇦@craiggrannell having had a look at it, I can confidently say it is a Brexit disbenefit. Europe is missing nothing.
MarjorieR@craiggrannell Catapulting - too quick.
I'd like them tied to a throne and left at low tide to see if exercise of Brexit Sovereignty will stop it coming in and drowning them slowly.
Note in the story Canute only did this to demonstrate the limits of what a king could do.
There are no benefits of Brexit.
Deondre X. Branch
@DXB04 Seems like a lot of effort. Not sure the UK space programme is up to the task.
Martha
Si(gh)@craiggrannell good grief
yossarianuk
TheLeatherMushroom@craiggrannell as someone who lives 120 metres from the North Sea I'd class it as pollution.
@TheLeatherMushroom But what if it’s a really powerful cannon and the fish are hungry?
Rachel Greenham@craiggrannell @lisamelton we’ll rebuild Doggerland on their bones!
Dan Ambrogio
Chris M@craiggrannell
It is a Brexit benefit. We don't have to wait for the EU to check if it's safe. We can jump immediately and wait until we are told by the same guys who uncovered Cambridge Analytica it is not.
It is a Brexit benefit. We don't have to wait for the EU to check if it's safe. We can jump immediately and wait until we are told by the same guys who uncovered Cambridge Analytica it is not.
Oli@craiggrannell as a native Belgian, I ask that you refrain from polluting our waters and ruining our beaches.
@olisuritz The catapult isn’t that strong and North Sea fish are hungry.
@craiggrannell oh yeah right off the white cliffs of Dover will do! Thanks for your understanding.
vox popsicle vox dei@craiggrannell catapulting into the sea: a weapon for a more civilized age
Flowermob@craiggrannell with or without weights attached?