SaneAmerican
laurakleinIf you can choose not to allow LGBTQ+ folks as customers you should have to disclose that to all potential customers so we can choose to go elsewhere.
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Caleb Sexton@danhon We need a "this is not a place of honor” symbol affixed to discriminating businesses Yelps.
River Brandon
IrishCath
M.S. Bellows, Jr.@caleb What's the F for?
legumancer Davy@msbellows @caleb I think it's a reference to the A and B grades a restaurant can get for food safety.
Blue Dot On Red ❌👑@lauraklein Exactly. Posted with the No Shirt, No Shoes, Not CIS, No Service
Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷@lauraklein I'm assuming you can also choose to refuse service to republicans then?
Darwin Woodka@larsmb @lauraklein It is against my religion to serve Republicans.
Anvil of Truth
Miriam's on Medical Leave@lauraklein Normalize asking “Good morning, do you serve queers here?”
Should we have to do this? Of course not.
Will it make this everybody’s problem instead of something swept under the rug? Yes.
Jennifed@lauraklein Exactly.
And we need to ask businesses if they have exclusionary policies and practices BEFORE we give them money.
You don't serve LGBTQ+ here? Then I will take my cis/het money somewhere else, asshole.
And we need to ask businesses if they have exclusionary policies and practices BEFORE we give them money.
You don't serve LGBTQ+ here? Then I will take my cis/het money somewhere else, asshole.
VHaschI'm guessing those same people will not hire LGTBQ people either. That's now legal, too?
steve@lauraklein @Tattooed_mummy exactly! Give me a list so we can avoid them. No problem
Evelyn@lauraklein @Nonya_Bidniss “Welcome to our Bigot Business™️. Please enjoy our lack of tolerance, & what we disingenuously call ‘family values.’”
Voline@lauraklein
Oh, it’ll get around.
Oh, it’ll get around.
GeoWend@lauraklein honestly, we can refuse to sell something to someone for wearing those dumb Republican indicator clothing, upon whim?
Nate Tharp@lauraklein I’d like to see a list of groups a business discriminates against in the window next to their health department grade and what credit cards they accept.
nonlinear@lauraklein well they won't and we'll need well maintained backchannels to list them.
ara@lauraklein yeah, i wish i'd known ford was a racist pos before i ended up getting a ford vehicle 😑 so glad i no longer have it as i will NEVER buy anything from ford, ever again
KerryBostonFan42@lauraklein agree 100%. We should also know who these people are so that we can refuse service to them.
Diamond Joy
Rōger Nōden@lauraklein Thank you for being an ally!
Mr. Mustache@lauraklein I REALLY can't wait for queer owned businesses to publicly refuse to do business with straight people. No coffee. No fashion. No food.
ChristineSaysHi@lauraklein Yes, please businesses post a list of who you won’t serve or sell to and we’ll let the market (buyers and users) decide. I’d hate to think my hard earned dollars would support a business making money out of hate and bigotry!
🏳️🌈Superdave! 😘🍷👨🦯@lauraklein @Dubhes So, I can put a "No Trump" sign on the door of my hypothetical #LGBTQIA and Allies book store and cafe? where the cups have queer-affirmative decoration?
@lauraklein They have no issue with having LGBT customers but making anything that promotes LGBT. There's a difference. Also protects against being forced to do something against their will.
myrmepropagandistI guess. But it's still discrimination, and why should a business benefit from the market and currency and services the government provides if they won't serve everyone?
@futurebird oh, I 100% agree. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court didn't today. And while there's not much I can do about that right this second, I'd at least like to be able to not spend my money at places that discriminate.
El Satánico Dr. Katow@futurebird @lauraklein Rousseau's elementals: if one doesen't comply with the social pact, they can be treated like a beast.
Mx. Luna Corbden 🐸@lauraklein @accretionist But hopefully in a way that doesn’t invite more hate. A “No queers served” sign would only make things worse in more places. A “we have invoked our constitutional rights to be bigots” would be better.
@lauraklein @accretionist Yeah the more I think about this the more it seems like a bad idea. Using their own wording would make their stance seem like a good idea to many and would legitimize and popularize the idea of discrimination as a righteous, socially-approved position. This would be reinforced by the fact that some see businesses as a type of authority, especially in rural areas there that might be the only burger joint in 60 miles. Authority makes ideas into reality. This would end in more violence.
@lauraklein Something like this; “Republicans Not Served At This Lunch Counter Facial Recognition On Duty”
Havyhh2@lauraklein .....excellent idea.....
Jenny@lauraklein excellent idea 💡
Andrew Hinton@lauraklein I was *just* thinking that earlier today … it wouldn’t take much for folks to start posting on Yelp etc which businesses do this. I will happily avoid them.
annie gray@lauraklein Remember what a tantrum they threw when a restaurant owner didn't want to serve Sarah Huckabee?
@lauraklein unwanted side effect: those businesses take advantage of the rule to start prominently displaying anti-lgbtq+ iconography and push the overton window even further
yunchtimealso if you are a supporter of LGBTQIA+ folks (for *any* reason, which you are certainly not obligated to reveal or discuss), you have every right to NOT provide services to those MAGAs and others who are actively, publicly, and intentionally harming members of the LGBTQIA+ community. I think it works both ways, if that is what the supreme court has decided.
Steven Capsuto - Alt. Channels@lauraklein The ruling is not about "having LGBTQ+ folks as customers."
John Sullivan@lauraklein Reminds me of Derrick Bell's story "The Racial Preference Licensing Act".
Falcon Darkstar@lauraklein experienced that today while, of all things, looking for a referral to a queer-friendly therapist. If the referral service had said they were bigots in advance it would have saved both of us some bother.
LegalQuilts@lauraklein well to be fair, website lady did want to post a notice on her website that she intended to be a bigot. So all decent people would havve had fair warning.
Rob HadleyLorie Smith, the person calling themselves a web designer, who recently had a Supreme Court ruling in her favor, stating she didn't have to build #SameSexMarriage websites can be emailed at [email protected]
Wouldn't it be tragic if she were inundated with spurious time-wasting enquiries asking her to build a website, getting quotes, and then saying that it was for a gay couple. That would be very unreasonable and a very unfair thing to do, right?
@RobHadley @lauraklein @timberwraith Jamming/DDoSing the businesses of bigots is a way better way to fight this without bringing more potential harm to marginalized people. 👏🏻