Matthew CloverI have been looking for awhile for a good solution to combine the two different sources of activity data, my Apple Watch and Coros Pace 2, and thanks to @Runningpunk I finally found one: https://runalyze.com. Took a minute to get things set up and understand the layout, and I finally have an accurate view of my training load and other things. Coros alone wasn’t cutting it, especially after their most recent update.
@Runningpunk To demonstrate, Coros has my training status at excessive currently and my recovery at 5% with 92 hrs until full recovery. Runalyze shows what I would expect based on my training over time. I mean, I even reduced my mileage this past week due to a flare up of a chronic right foot thing. Coros apparently can’t hang.
And I understand, how they calculate is different. The disparity shouldn’t be this wide, right?
JD@clovertalk
Note: I am not an exercise physiologist or any type of expert.
No, they shouldn't be that far apart on the same data. This isn't same page, same chapter, may not even be the same book.
Unless you set both to use the same HR zone definitions, maybe Coros thinks your easy HR is far lower than Runalyze, causing Coros to think you worked a helluva lot harder than you did.
Or maybe Coros does the same thing Strava does—starting at zero every week, instead of looking at a rolling average of the past?
Maybe Runalyze is more accurate because it uses race data to predict VO2, then can extrapolate current fitness by comparison?
@Runningpunk The interesting thing is Strava has a fairly consistent viewpoint also. It doesn’t feel as accurate as Runalyze, and it certainly shows my load in a manner that feels like it mirrors what I am doing. Coros only has my running, so it could be that to some extent. That said, my wife recently experienced some weirdness with her training load and other metrics in Coros and she tracks everything with her Coros.
@clovertalk Does Coros measure your HRV? Maybe since it only sees your running, it's interpreting your HRV as "overreacting" to what are actually easy stimuli? 🤷🏻♂️
It does seem odd, but I can't really say. I run with a seven year old Suunto Spartan Ultra. It only does HR, GPS, and Altitude.
@Runningpunk That may be part of it. They also introduced a running fitness test with this update, and while they haven’t said anything, I’m wondering if not doing it is causing some of the issues. I have a ticket open with their support and they agree it is odd. They’re just not sure how to recalibrate things. At this point I’m mostly curious so my wife’s data is accurate. Runalyze is the replacement for a Strava subscription that I have been looking for.
@clovertalk That is odd and understandably frustrating. A tool shouldn’t get in the way, nor should it demand you to do work you don’t want to do.
Glad you found what you needed in Runalyze! Wish I could credit whoever I learned about it from.
@Runningpunk Me also. I was not looking forward to shelling out $80 for my Strava subscription just to see some of the advanced training features. Thank you!
JDS@Runningpunk @clovertalk on point for COROS. They tend to ignore user experience at every opportunity. Noticed the same thing on the app the other day, trying to tell me I’m 5% recovered after a couple light jogs. Ok sure 🫡
@jds @Runningpunk I feel like the experience is worse since this full refresh. I know that my training status prior to this refresh was almost always optimized, and now it bounces into stressed constantly. My wife is also pretty frustrated as she has been using the data even more than I have. And it took about a week for support to respond to my ticket. I did like how they responded, so that is something.