know what's really annoying? they absolutely coulda just straight up specialized space marines given the level of sheer weight carry/mass they gave them

like okay, no, you are not sniping someone a mile away with your shit for brains designed pistol

but you can carry a ton of ammo on your back and just hose an area with machinegun fire

just a hulking mass of suppression fire

but no, they instead gave them generic ass power armor and then a generic ass fantasy do-it-all pistol

you coulda had a space marine sniper be able to just smash through buildings to better positions

you coulda had a space marine shotgunner just completely hold one hallway by himself. just filling the entire corridor with lead (or whatever space material you want). just flak cannon the shit out of that sector

i'm actually a lot less mad about space marine pauldrons than i thought i'd be

i mean they still do not make any geometric/combat sense, but it bothers me less than the bolters

i think they're related actually lol

i think in my head space marines shoot like the soldiers in the starship troopers movie

so they don't aim or anything, not really

so their arms don't actually ever have to move up that high. but also even if that was true that seems like a hindrance for melee combat

i think this is /less/ of a lore problem, since if you want (at least terminator) power armor to be able to give you spatial awareness and biofeedback then it seems more plausible you could at least sort of track some kind of semi-accurate shoot from the hip fire

but also you are giving up a pretty big advantage which is that space marines are tall

like really tall. taller in power armor

the height advantage when shooting gets negated if you can barely lift your arms to boob level

"if they're really tall maybe that's why they don't need to lift their arms"

terrain can be asymmetrical you wanna be able to aim up. it's important lol

i know in lore and gameplay space marines never go prone, but standing/kneeling is a thing so

is there art of space marines assaulting up something

like a hill lol

what the fuck does that look like

hey maybe not! but they're not assaulting up a hill, they're dying on it xD

but still it's a more top down shot of some of these marines

i like how the only guy even remotely sort of aiming is in the bottom left, sliding on his ass and leaning back so that his bolter almost lines up with his actual eyes

it must be so easy to fight against a space marine's in melee since like 180 degrees are prohibited from them lol

can't attack from above. can't defend against above

no wonder genestealers hard counter them

they're tall with long arms tho

prolly helps. against like, a normal sized human

still fucked against anything even near your height and arm length

space marine aggression probably a detriment here, they wanna charge in

but if you are taller/have longer reach you actually want to keep them at range (that's literally your advantage)

trying to wind up big attacks and wade in is literally playing into your smaller opponents' advantage

so 🤷🏼

is stuff like kendo big in the uk?

wonder what that conversation was like if it occurred xD

i just realized something even worse

space marines are really wide in lore right. like shoulder width

so their shoulder joints are even farther out than i was thinking

they REALLY can't fucking move in that shit lololol

"space nuns have overtly sexualized power armor"

me, after some thought: "the boob armor is geometrically not ideal, but it does seem like that can actually move in the armor so"

they have a similar problem where if their arms are at their sides they can't lift their arms up at their sides, same as space marines

but because gw decided BIG PAULDRONS ARE MANLY SMALL PAULDRONS ARE FEMININE it means they accidentally designed more functional armor lololol

there are some space nun designs (illustrations, not sure about minis/models) where some of them have some kinda of... maybe tube thing? running on either side of their necks. almost like a big collar

that would be a problem tho. probably. you might still be able to get your gun up but you might have to like, sort of splay your arms outward and then inside to loop your pauldron edge around it

would be very awkward. but at least physically possible without clipping through your brain

like this. the lady in the middle looks like she might have a problem

the two women lower in the foreground look like it'd be annoying but much more doable

yeah i dunno what those tubes are but they seem to be some sort of rank-correlated thing

more good == less functional armor xD

medieval knights do actually look cool you know

and even in the times when real knights did not use firearms, their pauldrons did not interfere much with moving your arms up in front of you, and sideways

you didn't need to make the pauldrons so ridiculous in front

space marines: *getting shanked in their armpits and other weak points*

me: "why don't you use rondels"

it's a little weird how they didn't use faulds for the sob

it looks modern/stereotypically feminine, like a skirt, but is also historically/aesthetically on point for functional knight armor

they also have those repentia or whatever but they don't even wear armor

so. yeah

lololol i saw some art of a space dwarf with a sword held above his head... but the perspective is literally done so his pauldron is hidden on that arm

looooooooooololol

just imagining that artist drawing that out and being like "wait, what?"

it's even worse because his torso is twisted slightly which would make his whatever on his back clip through his shoulder too