localzukJun 4, 2023

With the media so obsessed with the eventual "waste" from green energy production - end of life solar panels, turbine blades, batteries etc, wouldn't it be great if they provided context?

There are 9000 oil tanker ships on the planet. 10s of thousands of petrol trucks. 10s of thousands of petrol stations. 10s of thousands of miles of pipeline.

All of which are environmentally damaging to dispose of.

Yet, never discussed in the media. Its just the green boogeyman.

#Solar #Wind #GreenEnergy

Show threadeternalgoldenbraidJun 4, 2023
@localzuk You have a point, but it’s the nature of news to talk about what is new… we already have oil tankers, but we are about to seriously ramp up production of green tech. That is absolutely worth discussing and such critical article ms should be applauded. Particularly given that the criticism is coming from an environmental point of view.
Show threadlocalzukJun 4, 2023

@eternalgoldenbraid except, we keep building new oil tankers. We keep building new pipelines. New fuel trucks. New coal ships. New mining equipment. And we produce far more of that than green tech.

But that's never discussed.

Show threadeternalgoldenbraidJun 4, 2023
@localzuk Yes, we do. And we will need to keep building and replacing green tech as well. Everything must be up for discussion. Since we will need to build and replace, the things we build should provide a lot of return for any damage created.
Show threadlocalzukJun 4, 2023

@eternalgoldenbraid I'm not sure you're really understanding my point. This isn't a complaint that the media publish articles looking at the end of life of green tech.

My complaint is that it is provided in isolation. Without the context of the existing fossil fuel industry waste.

Without that context, it leads people to believe that green tech is somehow worse than fossil fuels. You can see this consistently in comments on articles about EVs, wind turbines etc.

Show threadeternalgoldenbraidJun 4, 2023
@localzuk I think the purpose of the of these articles is likely to show that “clean” and “green” tech does also produce waste, and I would say that is a legitimate article to publish.
Show threadL'égrégore André ꕭꕬ
@eternalgoldenbraid The issue is [we have x and y and media only reports on x].
The issue is _not_ [we have x and y and media only reports on x, but I think it only should report on y].
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Show threadlocalzukJun 4, 2023
@Mabande @eternalgoldenbraid yes. We should be seeing articles about both. People can't make good decisions without all info.