is space marine armor sealed. i have gas grenades. i pop those too

can my knife penetrate joints of their armor? they are going to find out i can knife like 24 of them in a round unless grim reaper's sprint triggers, which it almost certainly will, and i just keep going until they all die because i teleport into melee range like some kinda wizard

am i in power armor? usually not, but if i'm in some x-01 i could prolly tank some bolter hits, especially if they're oblique

i also have magic don't let me die drugs so unless they one shot me i'm gonna keep going

they're prolly better off not charging me. best chance is to pick me off with a bolter shot to the noggin at range

the 40ker war nerds tell me space marines can run upwards of 45mph

unfortunate for them since i can run faster, and sprint even faster for a limited time

i am willing to cede this point somewhat because there is nothing specifically in fallout lore about any of the player characters being able to move this fast, and that's calculated from gameplay/perk/mutation effects

taking this into account i can probably only keep up with a standard space marine for a few minutes at a time at best

that said even given the height of space marines in lore, they should not be able to biomechanically reach those speeds

if they come into the fallout universe i feel they should be capped to fallout universe human speed limitations, and if i enter the 40k universe i should outrun them xD

it'd be funny if space marines achieved that linear top speed by /bounding/, although i would argue that would be tactically terrible for them, since i could then shoot them while they are in the air and unable to maneuver

do space marines retreat? how many do i have to kill before they do? how furiously do they fight to recover their dead?

could they force me into a defensive position by just wounding my squad?

these are much more interesting questions that raw power level tbh

also how perceptive are space marines

they walk around in big clunky armor with bright colors emblazoned all over, typically

i am dressed in muted browns and greens to camo with (XXth century) northeastern post-apocalyptic wilderness

apparently they have a bunch of lifesign hookups with themselves and their squaddies

some have "preysight" which sounds like thermal

also... kill counters? okay lol

so... lots of lore inconsistency from the novels, is what i'm getting lol

however, it does appear that space marines are still indeed human and you can divide their attention

so even tho a terminator suit might be feeding them information they might be overly focused on other crap going around them

this is a funny excerpt and more or less makes me think terminator armor allows them to fire like fo76-style vats

just point at where the fucking suit telemetry tells you and pull the damn trigger xD

i feel like their disdain for long range precision shooting will be their downfall if my rifleman detects them far out

also how much ammo does a space marine carry

i feel like they waste a lot and cannot possibly physically carry much

SPACE MARINE SPRUES COME WITH BOLTER MAG POUCHES AND SHIT

PLAYERS JUST DON'T USE THEM??? LOLOL

i've reminded myself that fallout lasers in lore are actually ridiculously powerful, and would not actually just poke a tiny hole in a space marine
like one wastelander with a laser pistol would gib a space marine level of overpowered

honestly the biggest problem here is that i have high charisma and intelligence and i should be able to roll to convert the space marines to my side

because fuck the emperor

also like i didn't build my current character this way, but what if i went full strength/endurance/agility build

like i literally rip deathclaws apart with my bare hands

what if i'm a walking uber ork in human skin and they don't even know

realizing a lore accurate assaultron might be able to squad wipe space marines
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space marine spit is acidic and can burn through human tissue

apparently this is book lore canon

some of these feats are not even possible, and are just the authors being weirdos

alright this one is problematic lol

again, makes no sense, but whatever. fine

so that round going through your helmet is still going through your helmet?

fine by me xD

this is like... not even impressive given the universe lolol
see, this is much more impressive

there is a story about an unarmored space marine literally face tanking a heavy machine gun

i am going to disregard that because the power level of that instance far exceeds even the other batshit anecdotes

it would be like writing a novel where batman arm wrestles superman and wins

no tricks, no preparation, author just decided batman needed superman level strength for some reason

their armor is weak at the joints. this is painted as a plus because a marine got shot in the knee and stumbled but recovered

the point is your armor has weak points even beyond your eyes tho xD

there is a story about a space marine annoyed instead of injured when someone explodes his flamer and sets his head on fire

i simply wish to point out that in an official warhammer episode a blood angel had his flamer explode and he literally lost his left arm lol

in that show their captain also lost his left arm and there's a funny moment when they meet

two armored space marines, having lost their left arms

a lot of these feats are just the authors not understanding how like... basic physics works lol

is there magic in 40k. like for space marines. literal magic. because that's what you'd need

like consistently shooting a coin at 3km is not just space marines being super cool and having good sensors

there's... a lot to unpack in that kind of thing

being gyrostabilized like... no lol

i see why the 40k nerds say the bolter is like an automatic grenade launcher

these book authors are wild lol they treat each bolter round like a grenade

not a mini-grenade

like an obscenely big grenade

i am not going to even discuss the chainsword because that thing makes no sense

in fairness fallout has rippers and chainsaws xD

nothing about the bolter makes sense

it is just a magic weapon

it's supposed to be super efficient gyrojet futuristic bolter but also it's damn heavy and a normal person can't lift it

😖

there is literally no reason the bolter should be heavy

you literally designed it to be all cool so it doesn't have to be

imagine if star wars was like "oh yeah also the lightsaber is super heavy. only the jedi can wield it by using the force to lift it"

it's that level of wtf

so what you're saying is i can also kill you by shooting the weak point at your armor's neck xD

/r/warhammer40k: "we hate this. space marines are invincible and never die"

/r/40klore: "here's all the times they died to kitchen knives and shit"

so a common theme of space marines getting murked is a buncha people just burying them under bodies

in other words, drop a tank on them then stab their exposed bits

depending on author one might decide the space marine can pinky flip the tank tho

apparently a chaos marine got killed by an elevator falling on him

literally had an elevator dropped on him lol

i think a lot of this is on gw being terrible at numbers
like if gw tells you 50,000 space marines is wiping the floor with billions you don't wanna hear a space marine got murked with a spear

anyway, given how resource intensive it is to train and outfit one single ass space marine, the 40k universe should have developed fancy ass missiles to just target space marines at this point

yes that missile cost ten million money

it still cost way less than that space marine did

it's particularly bonkers given the scale of the warhammer universe

that cost is a drop in the bucket, and space marines are a finite, very limited, commodity

just blow them the fuck up

space marines would never survive in 40k

"i can run through walls and face tank heavy machine guns"

*drops a fucking nuke on you*

lasguns are significantly weaker than even civilian laser pistols in fallout lore

yeah i'm pretty sure i am gonna one round vats that squad down now

also lasguns can recharge... from solar? the fuck how long would that take xD

shouldn't a telekinetic psyker just be able to squish a space marine's brain from inside their skull

i feel like i've watched astartes before

seems vaguely familiar

i think i figured it out

not only are 40k fans just fanatically horny about space marines, they also seem to be largely unaware of any other universe

also i felt like wargamers in general would have a better grasp of military logistics, but i am getting the feeling that the 40k base is actually really split between the wargaming, the collecting/painting, and the lore

there are some people who are just in it for the lore and don't play or own any minis

the problem is that this is a miserable return on resource investment in the 40k universe where this is scaled up tremendously

a few thousand space marines? tens of thousands?

in 40k lore there are quadrillions. a galactic ocean of randos with lasguns

if you want historical, real life precedent, special forces are wiped out or forced to retreat by conventional forces all the damned time

are you really gonna risk 20 space marines to tie up 100 orks?

1,000? 10,000?

it's pretty well-established that a whole host of things can grease space marines. using them like shock troops (as widely depicted in the lore and cinematics i have seen) is wildly irresponsible and likely ineffective

"we sent the space marines in and they KILLED EVERYONE"
if you wanna kill everyone you just level the place. stand off and use explosives. what the hell are you doing

space marines in 40k aren't shown to do any of the actually special things real life special forces do

their lore dictates that only they can do/use their Cool Guy shit and toys, so they can't even train a partisan force

sneak over here and plant a bomb

aren't they expert tacticians? you should be laying battle plans and setting the stage for how your overwhelming conventional forces secure victory

i'm being told the imperium of man might have extremely limited capability to actually manufacture weapons of war

standby for lore checking and rage

alright lol

so this is a whole new threat level

not only does my fallout character one round vats that squad of space marines, i am not reverse engineering all their toys with the aid of micro fusion energy sources

"this is fucking pointless. why was this in here"
- my character, taking apart a bolter and instantly making it 10x lighter while not taking away any functionality apart from the possibility of recoil management
it's possible i could theoretically take over a substantial portion of the 40k universe by spamming gen 1 synths with institute energy weapons

ALSO THIS MAKES ALL THE GENERIC ASS SPACE MARINES GAMES WORKSHOP SELLS EVEN WORSE

IF THESE SUITS OF ARMOR ARE LIKE THIRTY THOUSAND YEARS OLD THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPAIRED WHO KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES AND TOTALLY CUSTOMIZED BY NOW

how are the tau not wiping the iom off the galactic map
everything i said about the space marines being a pointless waste of resources and being employed terribly multiply that by about 999999999999999999999999999999999999
@worthlessbums they control about three solar systems in a tiny part of the galaxy while the IOM controls 80-90% of it.
@worthlessbums this happens canonically all the time in Necromunda. Theres a box callout for it
@worthlessbums the answer is 'depends' :D

@DarkestKale was rewatching astartes and the psyker was holding up an entire ass space marine in the air, basically motionless

feel like that was rule of cool more than anything else

@worthlessbums on a different dice roll, that psyker would have shit out their own lungs, however.

Warp powers are... Reckless.