Alright I can layer forever obv I think this is good enough
Planned to just do bases today... zero bases done lololol
Alright I can layer forever obv I think this is good enough
Planned to just do bases today... zero bases done lololol
also like now that i can see my photos in giant size on my desktop: these do in fact look better under normal lighting conditions with normal human eyes lololol
good god that contrast
talking to my brother about fallout vs 40k
i think 40k space marines would prolly 99% squad wipe me, but my player character is juiced from6 fallout games and either 1) escape with his life, or 2) vats them all down, depending on their armor vulnerabilities
bolters prolly can't make it through a few feet of dirt
snuggle up to the dirt
start directing mortar fire. toss nades, smoke, bangs
buff up. put hilariously unrealistic suppression vats fire on the marines almost instantaneously
also like would the marines just charge us
they might. but in the face of suddenly surprisingly accurate and massive suppression fire they might not. they don't know my squad is full of squishy humans and one over-juiced player character
is space marine armor sealed. i have gas grenades. i pop those too
can my knife penetrate joints of their armor? they are going to find out i can knife like 24 of them in a round unless grim reaper's sprint triggers, which it almost certainly will, and i just keep going until they all die because i teleport into melee range like some kinda wizard
am i in power armor? usually not, but if i'm in some x-01 i could prolly tank some bolter hits, especially if they're oblique
i also have magic don't let me die drugs so unless they one shot me i'm gonna keep going
they're prolly better off not charging me. best chance is to pick me off with a bolter shot to the noggin at range
the 40ker war nerds tell me space marines can run upwards of 45mph
unfortunate for them since i can run faster, and sprint even faster for a limited time
i am willing to cede this point somewhat because there is nothing specifically in fallout lore about any of the player characters being able to move this fast, and that's calculated from gameplay/perk/mutation effects
taking this into account i can probably only keep up with a standard space marine for a few minutes at a time at best
that said even given the height of space marines in lore, they should not be able to biomechanically reach those speeds
if they come into the fallout universe i feel they should be capped to fallout universe human speed limitations, and if i enter the 40k universe i should outrun them xD
do space marines retreat? how many do i have to kill before they do? how furiously do they fight to recover their dead?
could they force me into a defensive position by just wounding my squad?
these are much more interesting questions that raw power level tbh
also how perceptive are space marines
they walk around in big clunky armor with bright colors emblazoned all over, typically
i am dressed in muted browns and greens to camo with (XXth century) northeastern post-apocalyptic wilderness
apparently they have a bunch of lifesign hookups with themselves and their squaddies
some have "preysight" which sounds like thermal
also... kill counters? okay lol
so... lots of lore inconsistency from the novels, is what i'm getting lol
however, it does appear that space marines are still indeed human and you can divide their attention
so even tho a terminator suit might be feeding them information they might be overly focused on other crap going around them
this is a funny excerpt and more or less makes me think terminator armor allows them to fire like fo76-style vats
just point at where the fucking suit telemetry tells you and pull the damn trigger xD
also how much ammo does a space marine carry
i feel like they waste a lot and cannot possibly physically carry much
SPACE MARINE SPRUES COME WITH BOLTER MAG POUCHES AND SHIT
PLAYERS JUST DON'T USE THEM??? LOLOL
honestly the biggest problem here is that i have high charisma and intelligence and i should be able to roll to convert the space marines to my side
because fuck the emperor
also like i didn't build my current character this way, but what if i went full strength/endurance/agility build
like i literally rip deathclaws apart with my bare hands
what if i'm a walking uber ork in human skin and they don't even know
i found a massive post about space marine feats lol
https://np.reddit.com/r/Thevexarecool/comments/jbsqpz/respect_space_marines_warhammer_40k/
space marine spit is acidic and can burn through human tissue
apparently this is book lore canon
alright this one is problematic lol
again, makes no sense, but whatever. fine
so that round going through your helmet is still going through your helmet?
fine by me xD
there is a story about an unarmored space marine literally face tanking a heavy machine gun
i am going to disregard that because the power level of that instance far exceeds even the other batshit anecdotes
it would be like writing a novel where batman arm wrestles superman and wins
no tricks, no preparation, author just decided batman needed superman level strength for some reason
their armor is weak at the joints. this is painted as a plus because a marine got shot in the knee and stumbled but recovered
the point is your armor has weak points even beyond your eyes tho xD
there is a story about a space marine annoyed instead of injured when someone explodes his flamer and sets his head on fire
i simply wish to point out that in an official warhammer episode a blood angel had his flamer explode and he literally lost his left arm lol
in that show their captain also lost his left arm and there's a funny moment when they meet
two armored space marines, having lost their left arms
a lot of these feats are just the authors not understanding how like... basic physics works lol
is there magic in 40k. like for space marines. literal magic. because that's what you'd need
like consistently shooting a coin at 3km is not just space marines being super cool and having good sensors
there's... a lot to unpack in that kind of thing
being gyrostabilized like... no lol
i see why the 40k nerds say the bolter is like an automatic grenade launcher
these book authors are wild lol they treat each bolter round like a grenade
not a mini-grenade
like an obscenely big grenade
i am not going to even discuss the chainsword because that thing makes no sense
in fairness fallout has rippers and chainsaws xD
nothing about the bolter makes sense
it is just a magic weapon
it's supposed to be super efficient gyrojet futuristic bolter but also it's damn heavy and a normal person can't lift it
😖
there is literally no reason the bolter should be heavy
you literally designed it to be all cool so it doesn't have to be
imagine if star wars was like "oh yeah also the lightsaber is super heavy. only the jedi can wield it by using the force to lift it"
it's that level of wtf
/r/warhammer40k: "we hate this. space marines are invincible and never die"
/r/40klore: "here's all the times they died to kitchen knives and shit"
so a common theme of space marines getting murked is a buncha people just burying them under bodies
in other words, drop a tank on them then stab their exposed bits
depending on author one might decide the space marine can pinky flip the tank tho
apparently a chaos marine got killed by an elevator falling on him
literally had an elevator dropped on him lol
anyway, given how resource intensive it is to train and outfit one single ass space marine, the 40k universe should have developed fancy ass missiles to just target space marines at this point
yes that missile cost ten million money
it still cost way less than that space marine did
it's particularly bonkers given the scale of the warhammer universe
that cost is a drop in the bucket, and space marines are a finite, very limited, commodity
just blow them the fuck up
space marines would never survive in 40k
"i can run through walls and face tank heavy machine guns"
*drops a fucking nuke on you*
lasguns are significantly weaker than even civilian laser pistols in fallout lore
yeah i'm pretty sure i am gonna one round vats that squad down now
also lasguns can recharge... from solar? the fuck how long would that take xD
i feel like i've watched astartes before
seems vaguely familiar
i think i figured it out
not only are 40k fans just fanatically horny about space marines, they also seem to be largely unaware of any other universe
also i felt like wargamers in general would have a better grasp of military logistics, but i am getting the feeling that the 40k base is actually really split between the wargaming, the collecting/painting, and the lore
there are some people who are just in it for the lore and don't play or own any minis
@DarkestKale was rewatching astartes and the psyker was holding up an entire ass space marine in the air, basically motionless
feel like that was rule of cool more than anything else
@worthlessbums on a different dice roll, that psyker would have shit out their own lungs, however.
Warp powers are... Reckless.
@worthlessbums sure, but the imperium know fuck all about making guns, so they can't make it better.
Also, to improve it is heresy.
Weeeeeee!
@worthlessbums old factories (STCs) that they treat as sacred objects rather than as actual machines.
They don't oil machinery, they 'apply the sacrament' to it. They don't know how machines work, they have rituals of 'press the sacred iconography' (ie: buttons)
... Well...
@DarkestKale HOW ARE THEY MAKING TERMINATOR ARMOR
IF THEY CAN'T MAKE BALLISTIC FIREARMS
@worthlessbums every marine they lose is BAD.
Not just the person, but the armour, the weaponry, etc.
The geneseed.
@worthlessbums in universe, rediscovering a single STC that makes tanks, etc, could swing the whole thing
That's what happened (iirc) with Baneblades. They found an STC
@worthlessbums
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/ar6ga8/baneblade_stc/
(blah, I can't remember what the deal is, but there's a bit of 'lol, the Baneblade was a light tank in the Dark Age of Technology' guff)
@worthlessbums like the machine cult DO but also not quite, and the imperium don't actually want to rely on them, cause, well...
They fucking heretics on Mars. But necessary.