Alx 🐈Panel 3 - @jasonhickel 'Production is what we do, is our relationship with the living world and we should have a proper democratic discussion on what production means'
Panel 3 - @jasonhickel 'Growth critical ideas are the core of anticolonialist thinkers'
Debunking the myth that degrowth and post-growth are concept born just in the minds of white scholars
Panel 3 - Rita Verma: 'When we talking about wellbeing we talk about the a long sense of contentment' different from happiness which is a fleeting emotion on which GDP thrives
Nice to hear the 'buen vivir' philosophy being brought to the table
Panel 3 - Rita Verma: 'There are many approaches that claims to be beyond growth but they aren't. We need to conceptualise all the alternatives that are proposed'
Panel 3 - Rita Verma: 'We can't have the world economic order being dictated by economists and engineers'
Loving how she is emphasising the centrality of the cultural pillar of sustainability and the call for a transdisciplinary approach
Panel 3 - Raj Patel: 'Degrowth needs a place, and you need to fight for it' and 'What kind of EU do we want to engage with degrowth, it depends on what the EU is'
'We need to be materialist to avoid to engage in magical thinking'
Panel 3 - Raj Patel: 'If the care economy is bought by colonialism than I'm not particularly thrilled about it'
Panel 3 - Lebohang Liepollo Pheko: 'We all have indigeneity'
this was in the context of reforming language with more precise word like 'displaced communities', 'marginalised' and 'exploited'
Panel 3 - Lebohang Liepollo Pheko: 'Bear in mind that 'Human Rights' were constructed in a moment when part of the world were not even considered fully human'
'We need to recognised the problems we carry on with ourselves'
Panel 3 - @jasonhickel 'We need an Ecological Proletariat' built on alliances between students, environmentalists and political movements
Panel 3 - Lebohang Liepollo Pheko: 'There are ONG and aid and humanitarianism concepts that reproduce othering'
Panel 3 - Raj Patel: 'We have an issue of what we mean as technology'
A break now. Thank you for all following this thread. See you back this afternoon.
Welcome back. Panel 5 is just starting and I'll try to do my best while keeping up with my everyday work.
This panel is about finance welfare systems #BeyondGrowth
This panel is about finance welfare systems #BeyondGrowth
Panel 5 - Juliana Wahlgren: 'The current welfare system is not working because it benefit only a small part of people, works only in emergency, and doesn't address social service'
'All is done to alleviate poverty, not to eradicate poverty'
'If we want to move beyond growth we need to think who owns our economy'
Panel 5 - Milena Buchs: 'There is a mutual relationship between growth and welfare'
'Welfare beyond growth needs to be designed on a completely economic system'
Panel 5 - @timparrique 'Can we afford degrowth? This is a problematic start, because we have no choice (...) Whatever the cost of degrowth today, it is less than the cost of the collapse of tomorrow'
Panel 5 - @timparrique 'Money is not the real limiting factor in the transition, resources are'
Panel 5 - @timparrique 'Economic growth is for increase the cost of welfare system'
'Growth is design to make the price goes up'
'We need a cap on the price of essential service to decouple welfare from growth'
Panel 5 - @timparrique 'It is not a production problem, it's an allocation problem'
Not entirely agree, but there is some truth in here
Panel 5 - Simone D'Alessandro 'We need policies that support and sustain workers during the transition'
Panel 5 - Milena Buchs: 'We need to think about freedom and the different of 'freedom to' and 'freedom from''
we need to protect the freedom of others
Panel 5 - @timparrique 'Everything is already rationed, because a lot of people already don't have access to a lot goods'
'We need to decommodify essential good so that rationing becomes a political rationing and to instead one controlled by purchase power'
Panel 5 - Simone D'Alessandro: 'It's not a problem of narrative, we need solutions to sustain workers that will loose their jobs'
'We are a rich society that can afford a transition'
Panel 5 - Philippe Lamberts: 'Democracies are fragile, but if they will not make they right choices they will bury themselves'
'We need to restore trust between people and policymakers'
'It's too late to change smoothly, but we can still do it in an organised way'
Panel 5 - @timparrique finally giving some clarification on the meaning of local currency (though I remain sceptical about it)
Panel 5 ends and I think some nice ideas have been thrown, though I would have liked some more concrete proposals, which I feel is mostly what is lacking now.
However, the panel focused a lot on labour and workers struggles, especially on resistance as transition are - no matter what - disruptive, and that's a good reality check that is often overlook in street activism.
See you for the closing plenary
#BeyondGrowth #ClimateDiary #degrowth
Plenary 2 starts with Aurore Lalucq introducing us in French to remember that we are a diverse community. I appreciate it, but I might be slower as I have to translate her speech from French. I wonder if all speaker will use their own language (which would be great, tbh)
Plenary 2 - Maros Šefčovič: 'The debate beyond GDP must be an open one, and it must be a continuous dialogue amid all stakeholders'
Plenary 2 - Kate Raworth taking off with a fantastic rubber pipe going up representing 'the shape of progress'
Plenary 2 - Romina Boarini: three reasons to think about wellbeing in this context:
Why: our society is not thriving because of increasing inequalities and spread of mental illnesses. The most vulnerable, the youngs and the elderlyare the one paying the cost'
Plenary 2 - Romina Boarini:
How: OECD wellbeing framework that includes all a series of criteria, and it focuses not only on the average numbers, but also on how they are distributed
Plenary 2 - Romina Boarini:
What type of policies:
- job creation: high quality jobs (high security and stability)
- going beyond the short-term pragmatic approaches
'Big system change can only come with big decision in governance'
Plenary 2 - Florence Jany-Catrice
'we need a collective introspection on the role of numbers in our decision making-process'
Plenary 2 - Florence Jany-Catrice
we need an agreement on what need to be measured'
Plenary 2 - Giorgos Kallis finally introduces the concept of the #pluriverse and uses the #South concept applied to Southern Europe (I have really a lot to say about it but in another post!)
Plenary 2 - Giorgos Kallis: 'as I was presenting the model of degrowth in that Southern island a woman stopped me to say to me: we are already living like this, why are you telling this to us?'
Plenary 2 - Kate Raworth: 'We currently have a system of finance versus life, and we need to redesign a finance system that work for life'
The first day of the conference ended and here a small recap:
- there's a general agreement that moving beyond growth need a rethink of social values that govern our own construction of the world
- various speakers pinned problems of social struggles and trade off, and call for moving on from slogan to what the consequences of transition are in everyday people's life
- intersectionality and pluriverse are there, but they could be addressed more specific.
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