Stew Rubenstein
Amish Super ModelWhat if we just consider “desire to own an AR-15” a mental health issue?
Bishop Whitewind@AmishSuperModel actually that would work 🤔
kt@AmishSuperModel great idea. Let’s reverse “Catch-22” this crap.
Darwin Woodka@AmishSuperModel I consider wanting to allow anyone to own an AR-15 a mental health issue
Renée Joy@darwinwoodka @AmishSuperModel agreed 100%!
Jorge StolfiWas that supposed to be a joke? I didn't get it.
Adam Christian Smith@JorgeStolfi @AmishSuperModel read pretty obvious & logical on my end!
Strange New Words (Adam)@AmishSuperModel I like where your head’s at, Yossarian.
potatomilk4me
Bean 🇺🇸🇻🇪@AmishSuperModel
They still won't do anything about it.
They still won't do anything about it.
gavinisdie 
@AmishSuperModel if only I could think of a scientific term
LauraIt's almost like people who buy murder weapons *want* to use them on someone.
ChuffMeister@AmishSuperModel anyone fantasising about a semiautomatic weapon- has by definition imagined killing multiple people at once. It’s obviously a mental illness.
Paul@ChuffMeister @AmishSuperModel That’s a hell of an assumption.
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel so you honestly believe anyone with one hasn’t imagined shooting people? Just try imagining working a machine gun.
What are they designed to do?
Ask any kid.
What are they designed to do?
Ask any kid.
@ChuffMeister @AmishSuperModel Yes. I own an AR-15 entirely because it’s fun to shoot at the range. The thought of using it on people never crossed my mind. I also enjoy archery, have a problem with that too? I’m sure the French at Agincourt might.
Shockingly, I’m a hard-core leftist (not liberal) who also believes in strong gun regulation and research.
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel why do you have an automatic weapon? Do you need to storage the targets? Why are you practicing shooting an automatic weapon?
Not being inflammatory with these questions just curious. I have never met a weapon owner who hadn’t imagined using it in some context even if it’s family defence.
If you just enjoy shooting why even use targets?
Not being inflammatory with these questions just curious. I have never met a weapon owner who hadn’t imagined using it in some context even if it’s family defence.
If you just enjoy shooting why even use targets?
@ChuffMeister @AmishSuperModel Semi-auto; it’s generally illegal for civilians to own full auto weapons. It’s fun to shoot and I enjoy the challenge of hitting targets at long range. I buy paper targets at the range. If you don’t use targets, how do you know you’re hitting what you’re aiming at?
@ChuffMeister @AmishSuperModel I’m curious, how many weapon owners do you know? Based on your questions, I would have to imagine not too many.
An AR15 is a *terrible* home defense weapon. In addition to how shockingly loud it is, even the low grain range rounds I use will go through several layers of drywall and stucco. CA-legal rifles also have minimum barrel length requirements that make them impractical to use in confined environments.
An AR15 is a *terrible* home defense weapon. In addition to how shockingly loud it is, even the low grain range rounds I use will go through several layers of drywall and stucco. CA-legal rifles also have minimum barrel length requirements that make them impractical to use in confined environments.
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel I live in the U.K. where we have ZERO mass shootings. But I’ve fired a Lee Enfield, An army issue SLR and was taken hunting by my ex-military step father as a child. I’ve held drug dealers guns in California (I asked) and I know plenty of people internationally who own a variety of weapons.
Most are honest and state owning guns make them feel safe and powerful. All have imagined shooting someone. Natural thoughts are not yet a crime
Most are honest and state owning guns make them feel safe and powerful. All have imagined shooting someone. Natural thoughts are not yet a crime
@ChuffMeister @AmishSuperModel Fair enough, it’s probably just me being neurodivergent vs everyone else again. I get the same dopamine rush from hitting my target as I do bouncing a QRP signal halfway around the world or trying a new recipie and having it come out delicious.
Beyond me, the fact is guns in the US aren’t going anywhere, especially if the only choices are between far-right fascists and a weak-willed and ineffective center-right opposition
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel I’d agree with the fact the only way the US can escape its daily murder rate at the hands of weapons sales is through a strong government willing to enforce a semi automatic ban. Your country is seriously lost.
I’d also point out that a part of you knows it’s better to have a semi if the fascists get any more intrenched into power. Being ND myself I know where fascism goes for those even slightly different and understand the concern
I’d also point out that a part of you knows it’s better to have a semi if the fascists get any more intrenched into power. Being ND myself I know where fascism goes for those even slightly different and understand the concern
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel I’d also imply that concern is your imagination knowing one eventual use for a semi.
I’d much rather they were owned by antifa, women and BAME than white men who to be frank are generally to fragile to trust with such dangerous weapons- as evidenced by the US gun murder rates.
Though it could be argued the gun sale dominated culture there shares the blame.
You would need to trust government 👹
I’d much rather they were owned by antifa, women and BAME than white men who to be frank are generally to fragile to trust with such dangerous weapons- as evidenced by the US gun murder rates.
Though it could be argued the gun sale dominated culture there shares the blame.
You would need to trust government 👹
@ChuffMeister @AmishSuperModel And yes, it has definitely occurred to me that it’s good to be armed in the face of rising fascism. That being said, at least in the US, the fascists are lazy cowards who immediately melt in the face of armed resistance.
If things get to the point of actual armed conflict, then we’ve already lost the plot. So no, I still haven’t considered actually firing my weapons in anger, because those circumstances are too terrible to contemplate.
If things get to the point of actual armed conflict, then we’ve already lost the plot. So no, I still haven’t considered actually firing my weapons in anger, because those circumstances are too terrible to contemplate.
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel in order to not contemplate something you need to imagine it even if your inherent compassion and empathy make you disassociate unconsciously
By knowing it should never happen you have imagined it. I’d totally argue that I’d rather a world full of people thinking like you do that one full of angry people obsessed with violent fantasy’s.
Have you read ‘The Body Keeps the Score’ there’s a point made there about how trauma can infect others
By knowing it should never happen you have imagined it. I’d totally argue that I’d rather a world full of people thinking like you do that one full of angry people obsessed with violent fantasy’s.
Have you read ‘The Body Keeps the Score’ there’s a point made there about how trauma can infect others
@ChuffMeister @AmishSuperModel I think we’re arguing semantics at this point. I have not imagined myself murdering anyone. Brandishing? Threatening? Sure, but there’s a yawning gap between carrying or even aiming and actually shooting someone. You’re trying to tell me what thoughts are in my head and that’s not an argument you’re going to win
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel I’m not mind reading. But you can’t not think of an elephant without thinking of an elephant. You just skim the details as you flee the wrinkled grey wall 🤠
@ChuffMeister @AmishSuperModel You shouldn’t exactly be casting stones; the UK isn’t quite a model of progressive values or stablility right now either.
I would argue that centuries of structural white supremacy have done far more damage to the American soil than the availability of firearms
I would argue that centuries of structural white supremacy have done far more damage to the American soil than the availability of firearms
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel I think the U.K. is the most blatantly corrupt western government and only a little behind the US in terms of population exploitation and cultural killing. What little remains of our once great Heath service and guns are the main differences.
Neither of our countries has had a point where the powerful were held to account by the population. Until some real consequences are visited on the malign leaches feasting on our premature corpses.
Neither of our countries has had a point where the powerful were held to account by the population. Until some real consequences are visited on the malign leaches feasting on our premature corpses.
Cedar Fen Farm
Cedar Fen Farm@ChuffMeister @dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel fact is the best approach against armed takeover is to go gurilla w a long range scoped rifle. Semi autos are useless for defense against a superior force.
Michael Slade@AmishSuperModel To get an assault weapon you would need to list who you plan to assault. In doing so, you disqualify yourself from having an assault weapon as a potential killer. If you don’t plan to assault someone, you don’t need one.
@michaelslade @AmishSuperModel Technically, my CA-legal featureless rifle doesn’t qualify as an assault weapon. Additionally the only thing I’ve ever planned on assaulting are large sheets of paper. Don’t go making assumptions
Doctor of Electricity@AmishSuperModel Exactly. It’s body dysmorphic disorder—the belief that one’s penis is inadequate.
Mike Babyak@AmishSuperModel Not to mention the belief that offering prayers is an adequate solution to the violence.
Jeremy Bunk@AmishSuperModel yeah I was thinking the same thing.
Sveinbjörn 
@AmishSuperModel or the reverse, make the purchaser legally reaponsible for all harm done with the weapon, as it were intentional, regardless of why it happened or who did it. Someone stole it? You’re still going to death row (which an AR owner surely must support).
@Sveinbjorn https://mastodon.social/@AmishSuperModel/110330521049417699 It’s really pretty simple:
Common sense regulations do not INFRINGE on rights, they ensure responsibility. So, without taking anyone’s guns, how about…
1-Minimum age & required training
2-License and registration
3-Background checks on ALL purchases AND transfers
4-Liability insurance to operate a deadly weapon
@AmishSuperModel @Sveinbjorn great list except for the liability insurance. I already pay enough just to have animals on my farm and my guns are only used in farming and hunting on my property. We have a restaurant and we cant get insurance unless we post no guns. Insurance companies should just be required to add language that denies insurance on home policies for accidents or murder.
@Sveinbjorn @AmishSuperModel Don’t go making assumptions about who supports the death penalty. There are a lot of leftists who own ARs.
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel if it serves the joke…
@Sveinbjorn @AmishSuperModel Doesn’t seem like a joking matter, but whatevs
@dssstrkl @AmishSuperModel you’re being sanctimonious because the people you see as the good guys also own murder weapons like overgrown babies? I think that is certainly a joking matter.
Americans’ sanctimony around guns *is* the problem. The *entire* problem. Their mindset is warped. And I can’t fix it. So I make fun of it.
Kevin Karhan 
@AmishSuperModel that's an utterly ableist shitjoke at best if not passive-aggressive denial of sadly necessary means of self-defense.
Disarm cops and go after the high-treasonist and facist terrorists as well as mainstream mass media that reward #StochasticTerrorism first...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VQULyT390
How the American Media Fuels A Cycle of Violence
@AmishSuperModel
This ableist shit will get people flatlined, and thus be wary of people trying to find ableist reasons to disarm marginalized people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nR-63_R2lg
#WeKeepUsSafe
Otherwise you're.just happy of kicking marginalized people before the freight train known as facism...
https://mastodon.social/@AmishSuperModel/110329070933074871
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Asbjørn Ulsberg@kkarhan @AmishSuperModel Owning an AR-15 is a “necessary means of self-defence”?
@bitbear @AmishSuperModel yes, since the state won't protect marginalized people.
In fact, I think that if there's someome who should be disarmed, it's the cops!
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/110330722790639998
Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])
@[email protected] This ableist shit will get people flatlined, and thus be wary of people trying to find ableist reasons to disarm marginalized people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nR-63_R2lg #WeKeepUsSafe Otherwise you're.just happy of kicking marginalized people before the freight train known as facism... https://mastodon.social/@AmishSuperModel/110329070933074871
@kkarhan @AmishSuperModel I don’t disagree that cops should be generally disarmed (as they are here in Norway), but in which situation has an AR-15 ever been used successfully for protection?
MxhradYeah, except conservatives in the US have made it so that even mental health issues wouldn't stop someone from legally owning weapons of mass murder. They scream "mental health" with every mass murder, but then block any attempts to stop violent or unstable people from owning it.
Greg Albrecht W2GMD@AmishSuperModel fucking amen.
Dj Padzensky@AmishSuperModel it certainly rises to the standard of “danger to one’s self and others.”
RealGravitas -Citizen Saboteur@AmishSuperModel We can call that “Catch-15”
Alex von Kitchen@AmishSuperModel @misswired what if we stopped demonising people with mental health problems?
Tim Moore
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Gargravar@AmishSuperModel Great idea! Just like gay people, pacifists, and socialists used to get locked away in mental asylums. It's wonderful to see how willingly the tools of oppression would be picked up by each and all irrespective of their background... the cynic in me is NEVER disappointed.
Hand Pie@AmishSuperModel the second amendment was written when it took half a minute to reload between bullets, so how about they set that as a minimum for the manufacturers?
Kerri Levine
ALB1@AmishSuperModel type-2: conservative
Type-3: christian
Each strike removes accessability to dangerous things.
Strike one no assault weapons, strike 2 no guns at all.
3 strikes yer not allowed to interact with non-plush objects.
Type-3: christian
Each strike removes accessability to dangerous things.
Strike one no assault weapons, strike 2 no guns at all.
3 strikes yer not allowed to interact with non-plush objects.