Oh goddammit Nina
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she's just doing this as part of a fundraiser... someone pledged a hundred dollar for every swear-word she can elicit from a certain Ken W
@dirkhh @Popehat I see federal deficit reduction potential here
@pixelpusher220 @dirkhh @Popehat If only NPR got more than 1% of its budget from the government. 😉
@Popehat are there any reasonable people left in 2023
@hammancheez @Popehat Not even I classify myself as reasonable anymore.

@hammancheez @Popehat "**Only the insane have strength enough to prosper**. Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane."
(Warhammer 40K)

(Note that the whole setting is supposed to be satire, ala Judge Dredd. People who take it seriously are to be disregarded.)

@LizardSF @Popehat the Americans who think WH40k humanity is something to aspire are fucking wild

Dredd nailed anti-American satire way before it was cool

@hammancheez @LizardSF @Popehat #JudgeDredd is the the first thing I remember that made me realize that some people who liked it were not in on the joke. This was an extremely disquieting experience.
@Popehat We need a list of words that can be shouted in a crowded theatre, although I am skeptical that any theatres are crowded anymore.
@grandmaBates @Popehat "Jar Jar sucks!" is, or should be, legal to shout in a crowded theater.
@Popehat I just want to know when the RICO will be invoked.
@Popehat ain’t nobody can read court transcripts like Nina. It’s her only talent.
@Popehat what's wrong with this? (genuine, not trolling)
How To Spot And Critique Censorship Tropes In The Media's Coverage Of Free Speech Controversies

American journalists and pundits rely upon vigorous free speech, but are not reliable supporters of it. They both instruct and reflect their fickle audience. It’s easy to spot overt calls for…

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@queso @Popehat Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater is not an exception, which is well-known. And her father was such a good violinist ...
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My impression is fire in a crowded theater is the Popehat kryptonite. You say it and it makes his powers shrink, like George Costanza in the pool... https://www.popehat.com/2012/09/19/three-generations-of-a-hackneyed-apologia-for-censorship-are-enough/
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Three Generations of a Hackneyed Apologia for Censorship Are Enough | Popehat

In her Los Angeles Times opinion piece justifying prosecution of the author of the "Innocence of Muslims" video on YouTube, Sarah Chayes opens exactly the way I've come to expect: In one of the most famous 1st Amendment cases in U.S. history, Schenck vs. United States, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. established that

@queso @Popehat Google "popehat fire in a crowded theater"
@queso (The "fire in a crowded theater" case was overturned 40 years ago)
@Popehat why "stand your ground" laws with no requirement to retreat need to be repealed.
@Popehat I think she’s just trolling @jkosseff
@Popehat When technically correct ignores legislative intent?
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Dude, seriously, alt text please. It's so disappointing not to be able to tell what you are posting. Your stuff is usually so good.
@springdiesel @Popehat Or a link to the page it’s a screenshot of. Even if the web is becoming harder to screen read on my phone while the voices get better.
@Popehat saw that this AM and literally closed the article right upon reading that “fire” line and opened mastodon to refresh your feed for new content.

@Popehat Seriously. Someone in her position should know better.

I don't know which speaks more poorly for her: that's she's this uninformed or that she just plain lied anyway.

@Popehat you would think that someone who reports on the law would know this by now. But no

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NPR headline: The Supreme Court ponders when a threat is really a 'true threat'

Nina Totenberg

The Supreme Court on Wednesday revisits a question the court has never answered: When is a threat a "true threat?" What does the prosecution have to prove? Does it have to show that the defendant intended to frighten his target, or is it enough to show that his words would have that effect on a reasonable person? 1/2

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What the legal questions are

The legal issues in Wednesday's case are bloodless compared to Whalen's story. The First Amendment protects freedom of speech, but there are exceptions - obscenity, fighting words, **shouting "fire" in a crowded theater** and what the court has called "true threats." The question in this case is whether the definition of a "true threat" is in the eye of the ordinary, reasonable beholder or in the eye of the writer of the messages.

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Arthur Strong would have been arrested every time he played a US gig if this was true.
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Remarkable, that’s always what I say whenever I see her name too? 😉😆
@Popehat I heard that story this morning, and as soon as I heard "fire in a crowded theater" I said (to my empty car) "POPEHAT ALERT!" 😂
@Popehat I was listening to NPR this morning, heard it , and said what might be fighting words were she there

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Someone should ask him if it's a threat.

@Popehat “The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that yelling ‘Fire!’ I’m a crowded fediverse thread is not protected by the first amendment, and should be punished by advocates for the second amendment.”
@Popehat Maybe she should have spent more time learning about law and less time building personal relationships with the people she was supposed to be covering and wasn't.
@Popehat I'm getting "man of ordinary courage" vibes.