San Francisco's decision to delay Algebra for all students until the 9th grade in the name of "equity," is a really bad one. Black parents didn't ask for this, and this strategy won't achieve the equity that they're looking for.

Hard to accept: A lot of "anti-woke" people believe that being woke is all just a lot of bad decisions like this. This belief is due to framing by the far-right: any bad policy is "woke." I help them understand that Black families don't want this and didn't ask for it.

@mekkaokereke I don't understand what part of "lets get rid of advanced programs because not all students are advanced and there is inequity in that advancement.

If they had special school, maybe after school or in the summer specifically for students in key areas to GET advanced they might just have a little better luck. Algebra is a good start. They might even throw some study skills in there since it is shown that those skills are the biggest problem for kids from disadvantaged homes.

@longobord

The "there's inequity in *advanced* classes" argument does have merit.

Black kids are often misidentified as "not gifted" and white kids are often misidentified as "gifted." And then gifted kids get better resources, more attention, better classes, smaller class sizes, that makes the gifted label a self fulfilling prophecy.

The solve for that may not be "No gifted programs for anyone!" It may again be "Reduce the racism."

Similar arguments are for sexism / non neurotypicals.

@longobord

On gender and tracking:
A not-rich little white 1st grade girl that has undiagnosed bad eyesight, is more likely than a rich white boy, to be mislabelled as "not good at math" and put on the slower education track.

She finally gets her diagnosis and her glasses in the 5th grade, but by then it's too late. She fights to make up ground to get into her dream college, then says things like, "I majored in Chemistry at Cornell, which was hard because I have never been good at math!" 😢

@mekkaokereke In undergrad I tutored math and was wildly popular among women. I learned to ask in the 1st or 2nd session "OK, who was it who made you believe you were bad at math?"

Every. Single. Student could, and did name names.

@longobord @mekkaokereke I arrived at UNC having already taken the first two semesters of calculus at UW while in high school - I got As in them both. Then freshman year at UNC I took the honors section of 3rd semester with some tenured prof. I was totally lost. I dropped the class thinking maybe I had hit the end of my math ability. But I still needed some math credit, so the next semester I took the "normal" version, taught by a grad student. It was just like all the other math courses I had taken and I got an A. I went on to take lots more math, including topology and differential geometry. But it could have gone much differently.

@tacertain @mekkaokereke @longobord My freshman year of university, I took a test that let me skip algebra. I was put in a calculus class taught by a graduate student from Eastern Europe who spoke little English. He would solve problems on the board, turn around and ask, “You get it?”

We’d yell, “NOOOOOO!” and he’d say, “Very good!” and then turn around and solve another problem.

If it hadn’t been for the Math Help Center, I would’ve failed!

@softicecreamlesley @tacertain @mekkaokereke @longobord ugh, getting flashbacks to a first year calc prof who was like listening to a bad drive-thru speaker ... we all defected en masse to another lecturer, and it set me up for a great follow-up term with an amazing calculus prof.