They knew. They lied. They need to pay for this.
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"Oil Giant Shell Knew About Climate Impacts Even Earlier"

Following explosive revelations about what ExxonMobil knew about fossil fuels driving global heating, investigations in 2017 and 2018 uncovered that Shell Oil's scientists privately warned about the impact of its products in the 1980s.

However, newly unveiled records show that "Shell began collecting knowledge about climate change in the 1960s. The company not only kept well abreast of climate science, but also funded research. As a result, Shell already knew in the 1970s that burning fossil fuels could lead to alarming climate change."

Faced with a global oil crisis, rather than using its climate information to publicly sound the alarm and shift to cleaner practices, the company "focused instead on a nonsustainable profit model."

The following year, a study Shell was involved with warned that "increases in the CO2 content of the atmosphere could lead to the so-called greenhouse effect... which would be enough to induce major climatic changes." Three years later, another report warned that "the continued burning of fossil fuels will lead to a manifold increase in the atmospheric CO2 concentration."

Duncan Meisel, executive director of the campaign Clean Creatives, which targets advertising and public relations firms that work for fossil fuel companies, declared Monday that "what these new documents show is incredibly disturbing."

"In the 1980s, Shell scientists laid out two pathways for the planet: one where energy companies undertook a smooth transition to clean energy and one where fossil fuel demand continued to rise, creating 'more storms, more droughts, more deluges,'" he summarized. "Since the publication of that forecast, Shell has pushed at every turn to create more fossil fuel demand, creating exactly the devastating outcomes they predicted."

The Center for Climate Integrity said the records provide the world "more damning evidence" that the company knew its business model was having disastrous impacts on the world and its people. As the group put it: "They knew. They lied. They need to pay."
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FULL STORY -- https://www.commondreams.org/news/shell-fossil-fuels-climate-1970s

#Environment #Climate #ClimateChange #ClimateCrisis #ClimateAction #ClimateEmergency #CO2 #Emissions #Shell

'Incredibly Disturbing' Docs Reveal Oil Giant Shell Knew About Climate Impacts Even Earlier

"Despite internal awareness, the company systematically downplayed the problem to the public, instead promoting more and more fossil fuel use despite the dangers," said one expert. "Now, five decades later, Shell continues to dawdle and delay."

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@breadandcircuses It was always only about money.
@breadandcircuses Executives that knew about it and did nothing should face trial for crimes against humanity. Question is, what can we do to make it happen?
@breadandcircuses we[car drivers] used the fuel, so we are also guilty

@breadandcircuses

If it is desirable to make Mr. #Putin pay for his crimes in #ukraine :

What should we then do not only with Mr. epic-fail #Bush and his buddy Tony #Blair , but also with the Big Oil companies like #Exxon , #Shell , surely #BP etc., which have been steering us into climate catastrophe for 50 years with systematic lying & "Fraud Science"?

Shouldn't we then make Bush and Blair pay for Iraq and Big-Oil pay for their global climate crimes with everything they have appropriated?

@peter_koenig @breadandcircuses Completely agree. Now find a jurisdiction in which you can bring those cases, win them, and make the judgements stick. Good luck. Really, good luck.

@breadandcircuses
how are they to pay? that seems like a misdirected goal or maybe a too simple #goal. Paying money at this point is useful but too small of a goal.
The real goal is to change the laws, expectation and big corp structure so this kind of thing is not repeated in pharama, ai, etc

How about #Free/Libre open #information. There is no such thing as a #corp secret.
All meeting, memos, contracts, reports, studies etc are public information, after all they are public corps.

@breadandcircuses and this list can go on and on….
@breadandcircuses the lawyers smell MONEY here. It worked with Joe Camel, it worked with Purdue Pharma, now they see a big jackpot in going after the oil industry.
Exxon's own scientific experts knew about the coming effects of climate change over 40 years ago and predicted that it would noticeably begin sometime around 2000 (give or take a few years). All that was kept internal and a campaign of misinformation began. Easy to do when the industry owns both parties so the industry profits are protected (and the party donations keep coming in). Truth, the people, the nation don't matter. Only the parties matter.

@breadandcircuses Anyone who goes to a gas station, heats a home or cooks a meal is indirectly complicit in the state of planet. Demand drives production.

We, as a species, need to do more than make demands.

@breadandcircuses Literally pay. That will do. Just take all their money.
After all, that's why they're doing it.

retooting with CN, see post above πŸ‘†πŸ»

#ClimateChange #capitalism

@breadandcircuses While those that trade stock laugh because they owned the shell stock made money on it, profited, will sell it & laugh, completely unaffected. As will hedge fund managers etc

@breadandcircuses
I read a piece about Lysenko, the Soviet scientist whose bad science is blamed for some famines there & in China. Leaders made a mistake listening to him, but their goal was to improve agriculture & people's lives.

In contrast, these leaders hid this & promoted bad science, and why? To line their pockets with more cash.

At least the Soviets were trying to improve people's lives. Yeet another reason why we feel like our system is crumbling.