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Jeff JarvisNo, NYTimes, the taboo that has been broken is not indicting a former president; it is a president who committed countless crimes against democracy while in office. You have this backwards.
Comrade Weez@jeffjarvis who wrote that, Haberman?
Stacey Campbell@weezmgk @jeffjarvis Peter Baker. Worse than Haberman, imo.
Bradley 
@jeffjarvis most presidents commit countless crimes while in office.
Paul Chambers🚧Democracy gets tested when POTUS's have no liability for their actions, esp, for actions not related to their official duties, also.
Running for office and campaigning is not an official duty, either.
Jester@jeffjarvis exactly this
myrmepropagandist... Bush? Nixon?
@futurebird
Yes, the actual taboo has been broken before.
Yes, the actual taboo has been broken before.
Packy Anderson@jeffjarvis @futurebird Believe me, if Republicans could have found evidence of a Democratic president engaging in criminal activity, they would have broken this "taboo" long ago.
British Tech Guru@britishtechguru @jeffjarvis @futurebird Oh, yeah. They tried mightily to find something to indict Clinton for. The best they could do was perjury over having an affair with Lewinsky.
@britishtechguru @jeffjarvis @futurebird And yet they didn't do diddlysquat with it, because they knew it wouldn't pass the smell test with a jury.
Trump’s legal troubles are just beginning. His decades of criminal behavior are finally catching up with him. He's made himself enough of a pain that people are finally willing to deal with his "offense is the best defense" method of intimidating prosecutors.
@packy @jeffjarvis @futurebird I'd say he's so old and creaky there's nothing really to be gained by a prosecution. Stormy Daniels is pretty much a nothing.
pgcd@jeffjarvis Find somebody who loves you the way the NYT loves Trump.
We Can Be Gyros@jeffjarvis Maggie could not write the EXACT words of the Police Union Head, so she had to dress it down.
The Skeptic's Book of Lists@jeffjarvis Does the NYT really think we need to test the notion nobody is above the law in a democracy?
Alan Twigz@jeffjarvis I feel like Nixon's crimes against democracy could've been prosecuted had anyone really wanted to, and we'd be in a different spot if they had
mpmaddog@jeffjarvis about damn time.. NIXON should have went jail.. to send message..effed UP FORD.
Aethelstan@jeffjarvis not testing democracy. Testing the justice system.
Kevin Hardiman@jeffjarvis Trump is no Billy the Kid “Alan Dershowitz, an emeritus Harvard law professor, said during an interview on Newsmax that a mug shot of Mr. Trump could serve as a campaign poster.
‘He will be mug-shot and fingerprinted,’Mr. Dershowitz said. ‘There’s really no way around that.’”
Dan 🦺 Deboer@jeffjarvis the fuck is wrong with the NYT, they keep dropping the boneheadedest opinion pieces
Cat C-B@dandb @jeffjarvis They’ve clearly decided it’s in their best interests to align with the anti-democratic party… or at least, to do so often enough so as to maintain their market share in the event the next administration brings us full-on fascism.
Eddie the Bulldog@jeffjarvis exactly! A man already served time for these crimes and Trump didn’t because he was president at the time. In itself, that’s messed up. Letting him skate because he WAS once president is even more messed up.
hammancheez@jeffjarvis fuck the NYT with a rolled up NYT sunday edition seriously
Nonya Bidniss 🥥🌴@jeffjarvis I was disgusted by this headline. Democracy has been tested continuously since the first Trump campaign, and hasn't done great under the pressure he and his cult have put on it. So sick and tired of the NYT.
excited for the mastodon rise@jeffjarvis they always will. Folks should stop giving oligarch propaganda attention.
Earthling@jeffjarvis
All they learned from Nixon was they can get away with it if they have no sense of shame. Fortunately, they can’t pardon State convictions. So maybe this time they’ll come away with a different lesson.
All they learned from Nixon was they can get away with it if they have no sense of shame. Fortunately, they can’t pardon State convictions. So maybe this time they’ll come away with a different lesson.
Gen X-Wing@jeffjarvis Two impeachments were evidence was ignored by a group that put party over law and country. I think that answers any questions.
NormaJane@jeffjarvis the test was whether he would go unscathed …
cmonster has moved.@jeffjarvis
In my memory plenty of presidents have committed countless crimes against democracy.
Nixon and Regan come to mind as the most obvious examples. But they weren't inducted
@damemagazine
In my memory plenty of presidents have committed countless crimes against democracy.
Nixon and Regan come to mind as the most obvious examples. But they weren't inducted
@damemagazine
Louee@jeffjarvis NYT = losers.
Bathsheba BlueWow — that is just plain not true. Former presidents have never been shielded from indictment.
There is no law saying current presidents can’t be indicted either - only a DOJ MEMO!
The NYT is taking their normalization of extremism to new heights.
💉😷🌿🇺🇦🇺🇳🇪🇺Oiselarius (he/him)
Ainebet@jeffjarvis WTF is happening with the NYT lately? I have lost all faith in their ability to report the news accurately.
Alexander Karn@jeffjarvis You know what's taboo, NYT? Fomenting discontent among members of the white nationalist militia movement and sending disgruntled thugs to the Capitol to interfere in the election certification process. But, go ahead, tell us more about how the rule of men takes precedence over the rule of law.
Statmonkey 🙊@jeffjarvis They know that full well. The gaslighting of the gullible is the mandate of their oligarch overlords. What these billionaires are really concerned about us not that it could be you next but them.
AaronHuertas@jeffjarvis I swear they troll liberal readers to get more engagement
Wayward Ace@jeffjarvis “shielded from indictment” is a funny way of saying “didn’t commit perjury, treason, or other felonies.” Was every president prior completely innocent of wrongdoing? Of course not, they were all human, and did stuff that they should not have done. But Trump broke the law, incited an insurrection, not to mention blatantly lied about the severity of the Covid pandemic, resulting in not nearly enough people taking it seriously and way more dying than needed to.
Lynn McAlister UE 
@jeffjarvis To a depressingly large degree, our society is based on the belief that we have some kind of right to escape consequences. Not true for all of us, obviously (being white, rich, and/or famous helps), but increasingly being held to account for anything is considered unfair.
Arena Cops 🇺🇦✌@jeffjarvis The taboo that had been broken was making a career criminal presidential candidate of what calls itself "GOP", although everyone knew by 2015, that he had been involved in ~3,500 lawsuits, that he had bad-smelling relations with the mobsterous Russian regime, harbored Russian mobsters in Trump Tower, pulled more than questionable deals with Russian oligarchs, bullied, extorted & slandered inner-party opponents & members & supporters of other parties, was only given loans by Deutsche Bank, which was convicted of money-laundering, when no other bank would any longer...
The "GOP" broke a taboo, when it crowned an indefensible criminal individual its king.
P.S.: Other countries of the free world governed by the #RuleOfLaw aren't so scared sh*itless to hold their presidents, prime ministers & other leaders accountable, if they committed crimes. It's worth following their example, for the sake of the credibility of the Rule of Law & its principle, that everyone is & must be equal before the law.
#RuleOfLaw #NoOneIsAboveTheLaw #IndictmentDays #CareerCriminals #CareerFraudsters #LetJusticeRuleAgain #IndictTrump #IndictALLRebels #Insurrection #Jan6
Emily@jeffjarvis what if their financial model depends on them going "fancy Fox", though? In that case they actually need to start spinning faster, because their audience is used to tastier stuff.
for a day, while . . . 🗽well, there's Nixon . . .
David Scott Moyer@jeffjarvis Richard Nixon.
imhensley@jeffjarvis So NYT is asserting a (former) president should NOT be held accountable for crimes?
@jeffjarvis We may remember, that Richard Nixon would've been indicted, hadn't he resigned before impeachment & being an ex-president been pardoned by Ford.
And reportedly a grand jury was even ready to bring charges against Nixon.
Criminals need to face accountability, be they bastards of American Democracy like the self-proclaimed "king of debt" from Queens & his insurrectionary ilk or not.
So what remains of that NYT "taboo" opinion is more or less BS.
#RuleOfLaw #NoOneIsAboveTheLaw #AccountabilityNow #JusticeMatters #CareerCriminals #CareerFraudsters #TrumpIndictments #CampaignFraud #TaxFraud #WireFraud #InsuranceFraud #Insurrection #Jan6 #ObstructionOfJustice
https://www.newsweek.com/grand-jury-indict-richard-nixon-watergate-1195613
SueG In NJ@jeffjarvis INDEED!!
Lingua Franca@jeffjarvis NYT Breaking: arresting criminals is bad for democracy.
CandyK@jeffjarvis He's not president.
Gina Wilhelm@jeffjarvis Just the latest reason I no longer read or trust the NYT.