Sean
Roy GreenhiltThis hits a little close to the mark...
Jason@roygreenhilt omg this is every conversation I have with a boomer about the last thing I hacked together.
@dbb Here's the twist. I am a boomer :)
@roygreenhilt well there’s boomers and there’s “boomers” you know? 😁😇
Helena Rigby@roygreenhilt my mother, in purple 😂
Hermit (gone)@roygreenhilt Too real, fuck this
curious ordinary@roygreenhilt Very relatable.
MorguninIn my experience, turning a hobby into a livelihood has always ended up taking all of the joy out of the hobby.
April Sparkles@Morgunin @roygreenhilt @juergen_hubert Yes, this. A hobby brings joy, a job brings ability to enjoy a hobby.
Billy Smith
goat@roygreenhilt
Hey how much for that comic?
Hey how much for that comic?
Astrid Sawatzky@roygreenhilt
In addition, those very people making you monetize your hobby, won't be willing to pay the price needed to even earn minimum wage for the time you invest.
A reasonable scarf for example will take some (>8hours) hours to knit.
Just saying.
That's Mr Badger to you 🏳️🌈Exactly this, the people who were encouraging me to sell my Fairisle jumpers were the same people outraged when I said that I would be charging over $600 for them.
Corvid Crone@BadgerBadger @AstridSawatzky @roygreenhilt my MIL insisted I could sell my fair isle yoked sweaters. "Just get a celebrity interested" 👀🙄 yeah, ok
I don't follow patterns for those, I design the motifs for each one. I have done knitting for my income working in a yarn store that also did commissions. I got paid $800 to make a fashion student's digital water painting into a sweater knit in cotton. And that was just my cut - did not include yarn or the percent that went to the store.
Normal people don't pay $1000+ for a sweater sized for a model.
Tom Williams@roygreenhilt I love dancing tango and I sometimes do a little teaching. But I would never want teaching to become my side-hustle. Most teachers find it difficult to continue to enjoy the dance socially.
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MargaretMac@roygreenhilt I have been told to make it a business tiime and time again. It's far more enjoyable to knit something nice and gift it than to sell it. Selling equates to unnecessary stress and the amount of hours/cost of wool would rarely cover the amount you could sell the item for never mind a profit.
Gary E. Walker@roygreenhilt @gizmomathboy me every time I think about propagating plants.
John Francis@roygreenhilt who's the cartoonist?
@johnefrancis Kevin McShane!
Kirk Kittell@roygreenhilt Source: Kevin McShane, https://www.kevincomics.com/comic/the-side-hustle-shuffle/
Jay 🆘Kevin McShane (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image Why am I like this? -- #comics #comicstrip #funnycomic #clipstudiopaint #mastoart #sidehustle #entrepreneur #grustle #hustle #grind
@jsit @roygreenhilt @kmcshane Beautiful—full circle. Much better when the creator gets credit for the shared work.
@roygreenhilt Adding links just prevents people from having to Google his name themselves, and can lead to a click / follow where one might not have happened otherwise.
You’re still free to add these links to your original post and boost the artist’s post, if you like.
@jsit @roygreenhilt No problem, Roy, I didn't conceive of it as a complaint to you, but I did want to make sure folks could get efficiently to the source so that the originator could get the most benefit. I didn't even see the URL in the bottom right of the graphic until now when you said it was in there. I found it by web searching for "Kevin's Stupid Scarves".
@roygreenhilt Still not too late to add these, by the way
Jonathan Lyons@roygreenhilt funny thing is, my hobby inspired a business plan. I’m exploiting the hobby to fund the business, which I hope will return the hobby to just a hobby.
Fripi (DECT 3034)@roygreenhilt cultural industry 🥳
Lstn2urmama@roygreenhilt I WOULD JUST MONSTER BACK AT IT.!
Ben Cole
Dan Shick@roygreenhilt the message behind this cartoon neatly justifies my many years of assing around writing novels I’ll never publish ty
damian
Locksmith@roygreenhilt Reminds me when I got to swimming and tried athletics in high school. The coach approached me and said they would be training in the afternoons and there would be try outs for interschool competitions and such. I said "I don't want to compete. I just want to do my thing by myself."
The coach seemed unable to understand.
The coach seemed unable to understand.
Noodles@roygreenhilt Too many people can't seem to get that some others just want to enjoy things and do not enjoye endlessly "working".
Not everything has to have a monitary reason.
SylvainThis is because, in our western societies, the only thing that is valued is productivity.
See how learning things is viewed as an investment, to land a better job, get a higher income.
Retired people are an endless source of experience and knowledge, yet they are not "productive" so they are discarded and forgotten.
Every time I show an inkling of interest in whatever, people around me would tell me "you should study it, make a living out of it".
Miragee@roygreenhilt omg! A co-worker pointed that out to me one time. They revealed a truth I might have not realized, yet. I turned my hobby of photography into a way to make money, leading to owning my own frame shop. Then I bought a Tennessee Walking horse. I turned that love of horses into a business taking people for horseback rides. Later, when I started cycling, I became a “bike flipper,” making money that way.
LPS@roygreenhilt so perfect!:)
Eli the Bearded@roygreenhilt Funny how it seems "women's work" (like knitting) gets more of that pressure than "men's work" like auto maintenance.
ShachihokoThe really funny thing is that at one time, knitting WAS men's work, and a commercial operation. I believe that was pre-industrialization, though (and this is if I'm remembering correctly from Wikipedia).
@Shachihoko @elithebearded @roygreenhilt
Hahaha, waaaaaaay before industrialization. Knitting academies/guilds (not sure what term would be most relevant here) existed in Middle East and Egypt long before knitting came to "the west" which has evidence of knitting in medieval Europe. These organizations were exclusively for men and graduation to mastery involved a huge stranded knitting carpet with a gauge of 7-10 stitches to the inch.
Afterpants@roygreenhilt
"You don't hate Mondays, you hate capitalism"
"You don't hate Mondays, you hate capitalism"
Hoo boy, does it. I've been tempted to start selling the little bags I knit, but it would not be a reliable revenue stream and probably more trouble to set up than it'd be worth in the long run.
Easier to just keep giving them to friends or something.
Shadow Heart@roygreenhilt seriously. I mean enough with the over monetization of every aspect of our lives. Life is about enjoyment not the grind.
Fourth Woods Games@roygreenhilt I'm in this picture and I don't like it.
Earthshine --> moved@roygreenhilt I blame society for not letting a normal job pay enough to live comfortably, much less fund hobbies.
Huldra@roygreenhilt @earthshine see, that’s why I deliberately choose unmonitizable hobbies. What the hell is anyone going to do with a conlang
I'm RimeThe worst part of this is listing fucking, knitting as “passive” income. It's one of the most labour intensive hobbies you can find. The sheer number of small craftsman I see complaining about what they have to put into becoming known and finding markets shows how much additional work there is that isn't even doing the specific craft.
Amber "French Kicks" Joy@roygreenhilt Ugh this is my aunts, every time I mention anything about a fun little creation or project or hobby I'm enjoying playing with in my free time. I hate it so much!
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Kobi LaCroix@roygreenhilt Oh, but how will you know if this hobby is really meant for you if you don’t subject it to the totally objective and unbiased judgement of the free market?
Crochetcat@roygreenhilt Managed to avoid this by donating blankets to the animal shelter. Dogs and cats don’t mind if stitches are wonky.
SusannaAuthor Old White Hippie@roygreenhilt My dad got his degrees in geology, and he’s always been a very talented photographer. He toyed with the idea of going into photography professionally, but in the end decided to keep it as a hobby so he could continue to enjoy it.
clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛Transcription:
Hobbyist, delighted, on sofa, knitting a scarf: What a relaxing new hobby I've found!
Purple demon, aggressively flexing a bicep, always all caps: Turn it into a side-hustle!
Hobbyist: C-can't I just enjoy it?
Demon: No! Make your passion your passive income!
Hobbyist: But–
Demon: Monetize your free time!
Hobbyist, grumpy, sits behind a sales table.
Table sign: Kevin's stupid scarves. $20 or whatever.
Hobbyist, delighted, on sofa, knitting a scarf: What a relaxing new hobby I've found!
Purple demon, aggressively flexing a bicep, always all caps: Turn it into a side-hustle!
Hobbyist: C-can't I just enjoy it?
Demon: No! Make your passion your passive income!
Hobbyist: But–
Demon: Monetize your free time!
Hobbyist, grumpy, sits behind a sales table.
Table sign: Kevin's stupid scarves. $20 or whatever.
caprimoon@roygreenhilt I do sometimes think I should try to somehow support the hobby itself (yarn is expensive!) but good god you’d have to hustle hard & charge a lot to actually profit from knitting (now pattern designing on the other hand…)
Rochelle100% this.
I loved dancing. I loved learning. Got encouragement to join various studios. Loved my students. Hated teaching. Burned myself out in 6 months & never came back from it.
I had a good job that paid way more, appreciated me more & I left bc I wanted the “challenge”. They’d have taken me back in a heartbeat but I was far too sick.
Officially Tara 🕷️ 
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Lucy Gray 🇺🇦@roygreenhilt makes sense if monetizing your hobby gives you access to resources to do it bigger and better. Otherwise it's a dubious proposition unless you really need a side hustle.
tekhedd@roygreenhilt Turn your hobby it into a business! Lose money slightly slower!
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