Your MomFeb 21, 2023
Parker Molloy

Police arrested a man for making fun of police, SCOTUS approves.

Where's the "free speech" brigade when the state is actually censoring speech? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-ohio-mans-bid-sue-police-arrest-facebook-parody-rcna70435 #FreeSpeech #SCOTUS

Supreme Court rejects Ohio man’s bid to sue police over arrest for Facebook parody

Supreme Court declines to hear a qualified immunity case involving a claim that Parma, Ohio, police violated a man's rights by arresting him for Facebook posts.

NBC News
Feb 21, 2023 at 3:15pmWeb
Show threadSpicewallaFeb 21, 2023

@parkermolloy

That piece comes right up to the edge of explaining the catch-22 of QI — that cops can do whatever they want if a court hasn't previously ruled that its unconstitutional — but does not spell out that when a suit like this fails due to it never having been ruled on before, now the cops are free to do it indefinitely. Its almost impossible for the cops to lose.

Show threadParker MolloyFeb 21, 2023
@Spicewalla Yep! Absolutely broken system (that is working exactly as the people in power want it to)
Show threadLewis EdwardsFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy They just didn't want to get embarrassed again when The Onion filed another friend of the court brief.
Show threadDustin [BusySignal-KE2EFX]Feb 21, 2023

@parkermolloy

I am struggling with this one because he impersonated an actual agency.

I didnt see screen shots in the article if the account set up allowed for clearly identifying the account set up as a parody account.

Like so many do on twitter.

Its really awkward.

Show threadParker MolloyFeb 21, 2023
@dustinfinn Yeah, I hear that. At the same time, though, arresting him was pretty clearly over the line, in my opinion. It would have been nice to be able to chip away at QI as that's used to justify and defend all sorts of horrible stuff.
Show threadDustin [BusySignal-KE2EFX]Feb 21, 2023

@parkermolloy
totally onboard for chipping away at QI - just frustrated that some of the reporting states "parody" and then in the same report it states "an account purported to be the police" which is wicked close to pretending to be an agency...

so it just sucks overall...

Show threadSinnistergrinFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug. Their entire ideology is based in BS.
Show threadRevJeberFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy
We can't hear them, their heads are too far up their asses.
Show threadDutchFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy Can you name any member of the “free speech brigade” who isn’t against this on its face? I think they’d all agree with you…
Show threadParker MolloyFeb 21, 2023
@me It's not about whether or not they'd agree or not, it's a matter of whether they'll actually speak up. And they almost never do. They only care enough to write about important things like "college students were a bit over the top at a protest" and whatnot.
Show threadParker MolloyFeb 21, 2023
@me Here's an example of that in action: https://www.readtpa.com/p/free-speech-enthusiast-matt-yglesias
Free Speech Enthusiast Matt Yglesias Refers to Book Bans as "Identity Politics for Librarians"

Starting to think some of the Free Speech Brigade don't actually care about "free speech"

The Present Age
Show threadRobert Jan SchuttenFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy This is just absolutely horrible. There goes the first amendment.
Show thread🍸Pooka🥕Boo🍸Feb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy This is why reTHUGliCONs in government, media, and magas on the street need to experience the same treatment POC receive. Arrest them all for any perceived infraction and let the courts sort it out later.
Show threadKenny KravitzFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy The self-proclaimed free speech lobby only really care about free speech *for them*
Show threadFirst Dread Pirate RobertsFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy I’ll have to read up on this. There has to be more than what the headline says. Censoring by the government is wrong. The government can’t even prevent publishing classified material, but will work with publishers to not publish the most damaging material.
Show threadDallman RossFeb 21, 2023

@parkermolloy It's a lousy situation. And qualified immunity does need to be revisited. But the article mischaracterizes what the Court has done or, better said, failed to do. The Court did not "reject" respondent's "bid to sue." It simply declined to find an error or conflict in appellate proceedings that rises to its interest.

The respondent was charged and acquitted at trial under state law. While that's not binding precedent, it does send the prosecutor a message.

https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/supreme-1

Supreme Court Procedures

Background Article III, Section 1 of the Constitution establishes the Supreme Court of the United States. Currently, there are nine Justices on the Court. Before taking office, each Justice must be appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. Justices hold office during good behavior, typically, for life. The Constitution states that the Supreme Court has both

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Show threadParker MolloyFeb 21, 2023
@spamless Thanks for the added context here
Show threadDallman RossFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy You're most welcome!
Show threadJohn RigsbyFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy This is what I hate about the current system. Officers can intimidate you and arrest you and there is no real recourse. Even if you get off, you have been punished by the process. It will likely cost you money to be found innocent, assuming the system doesn't just play along with the officer, and in this case it did. Add in the arrest process itself and the embarrassment in local papers showing your mugshot before trial. I've seen them harass and I've experienced their overreach..
Show threadKevin RussellFeb 21, 2023

@parkermolloy

Republicans colluded for years to lie to congress during Constitionslly Required Vetting. Justice nominees colluded creating lies to sidestep constitutionally required vetting, nominees lied to the Senate, during constitutionally required vetting.

Disrobe the liars.
Unstack the Supreme Court

Show threadGil Friend, sustainability OGFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy
This is either very hard to understand, or really scary, or both. Did they actually charge him with "disrupting police operations" by making fun of them? (Is that like "bringing discredit upon the Poliburo?) Did the Supremes actually not rule because there's no precedent for not allowing arrest for satire? (I guess bcs no police force was stupid enough to try it before.) Well, now there's _still_ no precedent. #FreeSpeech #SCOTUS
Show threadWinter StoatFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy אַל תּשָּׁפֵט עִם שׁוֹפֵט, כִּי כִּרְצוֹנוֹ יִשְׁפֹּט.
Do not go to law against a judge, for the decision will favor him because of his standing.
Show threadMattFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy I’m baffled by the court’s decision. How is this not a straightforward 1st amendment violation?
Show threadPaul LalondeFeb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy And that's why it's called a police state. And Americans wonder why, every year, people are more loathe to visit their country.
Show threadAfterLand 🤟🌎🎨Feb 21, 2023
@parkermolloy Weeelllll I listened to a podcast about this and what the guy did wa exactly copy it to look real, then put out inflammatory and resist posts that looked as if they were coming from the police dept, then deleted posts where people pointed out that it was parody. This wasn’t a funny innocent joke. It was malicious and could have really caused some damage.
Show threadLukakoFeb 21, 2023
@afterland @parkermolloy cops deserve all the malice they get
Show threadCameron MacLeodFeb 21, 2023
@afterland yikes. Request: if possible, provide a link so that it’s not hearsay chasing hearsay?
Show threadLee Markosian Feb 22, 2023
@c_9 @afterland https://thisiscriminal.com/episode-206-novak-v-city-of-parma-2-17-2023
Episode 207: Novak v. City of Parma (2.17.2023)

In 2016, a man named Anthony Novak created a parody Facebook page of his local police department.

Show threadCameron MacLeodFeb 22, 2023
@peternocturnal @afterland Thanks!
Show threadAfterLand 🤟🌎🎨Feb 24, 2023
@peternocturnal @c_9 thank you for posting this link
Show threadAfterLand 🤟🌎🎨Feb 24, 2023
@c_9 podcast Criminal episode 207
Show threadStephen BrannenFeb 22, 2023

@afterland @parkermolloy

The Onion said it better than I ever could in their amicus brief: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-293/242292/20221003125252896_35295545_1-22.10.03%20-%20Novak-Parma%20-%20Onion%20Amicus%20Brief.pdf

Show threadニルス・スキニールFeb 22, 2023
@parkermolloy In some southern states it is illegal to criticize the military
Show threadGeddyLeeRothFeb 22, 2023
@parkermolloy But they're okay with white people killing police 3 years ago. Fuck these racist scumbags including Uncle Clarence.
Show threadSandra ΘΔFeb 22, 2023
@parkermolloy Welp. We are here. This isn't the land of the free anymore.
Show threadLot⁴⁹Feb 22, 2023
@parkermolloy My god SCOTUS will lock us all up if we don't love them enough.
Show threadInsufficientC8H11NO2Feb 22, 2023

@parkermolloy

Everyone should now refer to the US as Bizarro World.