One thing that never really gets said but everyone knows is true is that one of the reasons transphobes are so focused on preventing trans teens from stopping their bodies' natural puberties is that it scares them if they can't immediate "tell" if a person is trans.

They push to delay transition because it results in trans people looking more "visibly trans," which is what the transphobes want.

They see someone like Kim Petras, someone they'd have no clue was trans if they weren't told, and they get really weird. They want to be able to "mark" us as trans, so they push to make it harder and harder to transition, pushing into the 20s to ensure that we're visibly trans enough for them.
It's why places like NYT will be like, "omg, this person who detransitioned after going on testosterone for a year has a raspier voice than most women now and she has a bit of facial hair! Omg!" Not realizing/caring that forcing trans girls, for instance, to go through a testosterone-driven puberty DOES THE SAME THING. Equally bad, yet they don't see this as a cost.

It's why the theme of "omg, you hooked up with a duuuuuuuuuuddddeeeee?!?!" stuff in movies (The Crying Game, Ace Ventura, etc.) was so popular for so long: it reflects a real anxiety about being "tricked."

And so certain portions of society take it upon themselves to make sure trans people are as visibly trans as possible: they feel entitled to know if someone is trans.

It's all based on really gross transphobic tropes.

A lot of people genuinely seem to think they have some sort of right to know if their coworkers or acquaintances are trans. That's absurd. They don't. It's a wild invasion of privacy.

So they push for policies that make it easier to clock us. It's a big old sexist attack.

This is dehumanizing stuff. I really need allies to help fight back against it. https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/arkansas-lawmaker-hearing-asks-transgender-woman-penis-rcna70787
Arkansas lawmaker, at a hearing, asks transgender woman if she has a penis

An Arkansas lawmaker shocked onlookers this week when he asked a transgender health care professional about her genitals at a hearing on a bill that would prohibit gender-affirming care for minors.

NBC News
Please help us.
Being trans doesn't make me depressed. Being dehumanized, degraded, and debated does. I'm on the edge and I just wish that the world cared enough to stop torturing us with this.
I am fuming. So many idiotic, willfully ignorant a-holes who don't know the first thing about what they're talking about just jumping in to offer their non-expert opinion on this topic. Fuck these people.

"Respectfully, this is madness"

No, what is "madness" is a bunch of idiotic non-experts jumping in to side with people who WANT TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO BE TRANS because they stayed in a fucking Holiday Inn Express last night.

What's "madness" is thinking that decisions about medical care for children should be left to THE STATE and not parents. THAT is what is "madness."

@parkermolloy "Respectfully, go fuck yourself" also would have worked. You're more polite than I am, Parker.
@parkermolloy "Holiday Inn Express"?
@aismallard im dating myself a bit with that reference
@parkermolloy they talk about this like the kids are street orphans coaxed into a back alley. These are kids WITH parents who have physician's and psychologists advice on what is right for their child. Government should butt the hell out. How is this hard?

@parkermolloy I'd like to offer that decisions should be made by the children involved, and only while lacking capacity to do so, by their parents. Medicine already has both formal and informal approaches for judging a patient's capacity to consent to treatment, used in many instances such as prescriptions for birth control.

I know that many of these zealots would flip out at the notion that children can/should have agency but incremental demands always fail us.

@litui oh totally, I'm mostly just sort of thinking of it through the lens of whether the state should outright ban something

@parkermolloy

the cruelty is the accursed point.

because the objective is power.

power through fear is relatively easy until it’s not, but hatred and bigotry and the choice to inflict pain on others and self, to use a computing analogy, chews up so much processing ability of the brain and mind that it renders these fools desperately trying to convince others to make a human nonhuman, 1=0, noticeably less intelligent.

i’ll talk about the best way to power after my 2^33 repeated steps.

@parkermolloy "Extreme body modifications with permanent effects": oh, so are we speaking of abolishing puberty blockers for children in early precocious puberty, too? Or is he obsessed with something more specific?
@parkermolloy "respectfully, this is Sparta!" *jumpkicks obtuse duder into the abyss*
@parkermolloy they're also completely against puberty blockers (which would support the shitty excuse they're giving) so it's pretty clear they're just hateful against trans people and your reasoning is pretty solid here
@everywhereist @parkermolloy yup, my body went through all kinds of puberty when i was younger and my parents where like "stop him growing tits he looks fat" (paraphrased but not far from actual quotes from family members) then when i was 15 i was forced to take testosterone even though i said i dont want to be a boy multiple times. they dont realy care about children they just care about controlling people and taking away bodily autonomy so then in the future its easier for them to ban abortion
@ScarScar @parkermolloy I'm so sorry you went through this. ♥️
@everywhereist @parkermolloy it was tough but unfortunatly for them they will never get to hear from me again and i can use my existence to prove a point against terfs and also confuse old men on the bus with my massively low vocal range and realistic tits

@everywhereist @parkermolloy Are they against puberty blockers for cis kids, or just for trans kids?

I haven’t been able to find numbers on this, but I’d be surprised if the primary users of puberty blockers weren’t cis kids with precocious puberty.

I notice we never hear about their bone density.

@avram @everywhereist @parkermolloy They're primarily focused on puberty blockers when it comes to trans kids, tho it's worth noting being against one inevitably means restricting access for the other, too, so technically I'd argue they're against both at the end of the day. Which probably isn't a problem for transphobes tho, given that they tend to be very partial to essentialist arguments, like they were on abortion. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it's mostly cis people using blockers
@TelvanniBean @avram @everywhereist yeah, pretty much every time they introduce a bill on this stuff they create carve-outs so it never applies to cis people
@parkermolloy @avram @everywhereist You misunderstand. I'm arguing that being against trans rights means harming all. Trans people are the primary target, but it also has a domino effect, whether transphobes realize it or not. Remember the genital/period tracking they wanted, where they'd inspect every kid in sports, for example, in FL? (I might've gotten the state wrong) Forcing anyone to conform to a certain gender expectation is a recipe for disaster, and the reality is not all can fit it
@parkermolloy @avram @everywhereist Transphobes can't accept that trans people are people who deserve rights, because transphobes want to be at the top of the ladder. Even if it means they'll have to forfeit rights that intertwine with trans issues, because they are unable or unwilling to see how the two can often overlap. I'm trying to make an intersectional argument, as a cis person who doesn't fit the typical binary and has been mistaken as trans for it. Apologies if it came off wrong/bad
@parkermolloy @TelvanniBean @avram @everywhereist For intersex kids the way these “but it’s all fine for cis children go ahead” exceptions fall out is that you can do whatever you want to an IS child as long as they _don’t_ want it. It’s horrific.
@avram @everywhereist @parkermolloy the primary use is indeed that, well, the primary primary use of many of these medications is actually for prostate and breast cancer as they stop the primary production of both types of sex hormones. (GnRH-agonists)
@parkermolloy If they were against “extreme body modifications with permanent effects,” they’d be FOR puberty blockers.

@parkermolloy

They get their mindless talking point from maga propaganda and they just repeat it instead of interrogating it.

Its the same pattern whenever maga defends power. "Hate the sin, love the sinner." "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." "Playing the race card." "Medical freedom." "States rights." etc, etc.

It always the same tactic, they just plug in whatever the maga comms consultants found tested best on low-information voters.

@parkermolloy Yeah, never got tired of those idiots on Twitter myself, and whenever I pushed back asking for them to explain what 'extreme body modifications with permanent effects' they're referring to, they usually blither on something about some random drug that's not related to trans care, or just don't respond. Seriously, do these people think that teenage trans care is like a fucking car oil change?
@parkermolloy note that they said "MENTALLY HEALTHY." That is, and I cannot stress this enough, NOT a throw away line. They say that because they KNOW that trans people are in general not "mentally healthy" (depression, etc) because we've been forced to live in the wrong bodies and identities. It's a really convenient way to block off trans care. It's LITERALLY the plot of Catch-22 in reverse. You'd only seek care if you're not "mentally healthy" because dysphoria is effecting your mental health, but you can only get that care if you ARE mentally healthy.
@parkermolloy I don’t have the quick solution, but I will stand up for your rights at every opportunity I have.
@parkermolloy Copy that. Every thinking and feeling person I know is exhausted from being exhausted, by hatred, ignorance, and stupid. In that order.

@parkermolloy

There's a certain mode of thought which relies on knowing that we're strong enough that they can't ignore us...

But I don't really want to be seen that way. I just want them to stop hurting us. Let them sit in their own box and mutter their imprecations about how everyone different is wrong in 280-character screeds.

Being trans is great. Being ourselves is great.

Living as ourselves would be great, were we allowed to live as ourselves.

(Please hold on. We need to.)

@parkermolloy what can someone thousands of miles away -- in a state where the government is pretty trans-friendly -- do, other than donating to trans organizations?
Arkansas lawmaker, at a hearing, asks transgender woman if she has a penis

An Arkansas lawmaker shocked onlookers this week when he asked a transgender health care professional about her genitals at a hearing on a bill that would prohibit gender-affirming care for minors.

NBC News

@parkermolloy
Reductive as the point may be, I like to equate it to the birthmark question.

Would you randomly ask someone if they have a birthmark? Where it is? How big, what shape, the extent to which it affects their lives?

Would you disrobe a person, sometimes forcibly, to determine if they have such a birthmark? Would you scream at them for hiding a birthmark? Would you demand they wear patches on their clothes stating they have one?

It's not that different.

Arkansas lawmaker, at a hearing, asks transgender woman if she has a penis

An Arkansas lawmaker shocked onlookers this week when he asked a transgender health care professional about her genitals at a hearing on a bill that would prohibit gender-affirming care for minors.

NBC News
@parkermolloy @theogrin A cruel, despicable, and inappropriate question unbefitting of his office.

@JaniceSelbie @parkermolloy

For the longest time, they have asked these questions -- questions with as much verity as the old saw "have you stopped beating your wife" - of those they hate, with no recompense or redound. I wish this were the instance which causes them to finally stop. I know it's not.

More, their office demands they ask these supposed questions. It's for what they were voted into office.

@theogrin @parkermolloy or would you randomly ask a cis person if their genitals are intact? do they have both of their testicles? do they have their breasts and uterus? the answer in nearly every case not involving the person's medical team is that it's none of their business
@matunos @theogrin @parkermolloy I'd go further and say that cis men don't want to know the state of a cis woman's organs; they pale and retreat if hysterectomy, physical changes from pregnancy, etc. are mentioned, much less details shared.

@JosetAEtzel @matunos @parkermolloy

The very question of a period! Even for non-menstruating folks, it's like, hey, dude? If you're going to regale us with the details of the rash you oh-so-mysteriously obtained the other night, don't pule when we tell you that it feels like our abdomens are trying to turn inside out.

@parkermolloy because one hurts a cis person and the other
@parkermolloy exactly, transphobes would deny care to millions of trans people to save a single cis person
@spacequeennorah @parkermolloy not even ACTUALLY save a single cis person, just "save" a single cis person from the horrible horrible fate of, like, trying blockers. 🙄
@parkermolloy this is a much nicer interpretation than my own