Alexander Yellen
Dare ObasanjoDid a half empty plot of commercial real estate write this?
Laima@carnage4life Some headline writer has never been stuck in traffic while the clock is ticking on the time daycare closes. There is nothing “psychologically recover”ing about rush hour traffic.
Deb4+ aka Deborah DT 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️@ahsiet @carnage4life seriously. Everyone can go in out and sit in their car for a couple tunes for some liminal space between work and home time... No gas expenses, no traffic.
Susan Potter@DeborahForPlus @ahsiet @carnage4life heck, just go for a walk with your headphones on. No car even needed (if you live somewhere you can avoid having one).
@SusanPotter @ahsiet @carnage4life
Even better to take a walk. I just liked the image of sitting in a car and using no gas.
Phillip Opfer@DeborahForPlus @ahsiet @carnage4life This right here. I used to look forward to my drive home to relax after a long shift. When I changed careers and went to work from home i was worried about getting my time to relax and found just walking out to my patio and enjoying the peace that was much better since it requires zero concentration unlike driving. I do wish I had more options for when I do feel like working away from hime like other places.
Geeden_Of_Arden@ahsiet @carnage4life Haha! It's a horrible attempt to make us believe that mindless, wasteful time spent with our cars is more valuable than with families and loved ones after a day of trading our labor for money instead of domestic accomplishments. Those crazy capitalists!
mashbooq@carnage4life the capitalists aren't even trying to mask their propaganda any more, I guess
AlexisDyslexic@mashbooq @carnage4life oh, they think they are masking it. Rich people aren't always clever.
Baron Vonskinnback
Todd Smith@Vonskinnback @alexisdyslexic @mashbooq @carnage4life It's funny, income does correlate with intelligence, but only up to the 90% level. After that, the correlation drops off sharply.
Extremely rich people are not extremely smart. Study in Sweden finds income is related to intelligence up to about the 90th percentile in income. Above that level, differences in income are not related to cognitive ability. https://academic.oup.com/esr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/esr/jcac076/7008955?login=false
bjb 
@carnage4life Or you know, you could go for a walk around the block after work and before dinner. Get some exercise along with the psychological distancing.
I know /you/ know, just putting the suggestion out there.
I know /you/ know, just putting the suggestion out there.
Karin!@bjb @carnage4life the article suggests exactly that. Headlines are awful
Tim G@carnage4life Did the scholars declare the time, distance, mode of transport and number of days they commute each week?
DarkeSword@carnage4life They’re not wrong. My commute where I walk over to my kitchen to get a stick of string cheese after work provides an incredible amount of liminal space.
Sunanda@carnage4life Psychologically recover by blocking work messages after 6 p.m.
George Mitchell@carnage4life How about I just go out and sit in my car in the garage listening to ‘80s alternative for half an hour after I close my laptop? Would that do the trick, do you think?
Ira@carnage4life honestly there are aspects of walking ten minutes from my home to my office every day that I miss.
geographile@carnage4life so when I lived in Oakland two blocks from work and then moved to Fremont an hour (in traffic) from work, it was an upgrade for my mental health.
Ren@carnage4life My personal anecdata of 15 years as a full-time telecommuter says all I need for a transition is a deep breath and to shut the laptop.
Allan Chow@carnage4life nothing bad comes of commuting
Crucifixion's a Doddle@carnage4life given that they are “management scholars”, I’d suggest there is some doubt over their funding and their impartiality.
I’d prefer the opinion of independent sociologists and psychologists, tbh.
Mark Shane Hayden@carnage4life I think when you "detach" and "psychologically recover" from work it's called quitting innit?
Renée@carnage4life lol amazing bullshit
of course, "management scholars" probably live a 15 minute walk to campus, right? And enjoy fully-paid consulting travel in very nice hotels?
Steve White@carnage4life
Literally the only thing I miss about my commute was listening to podcasts/lectures from The Great Courses etc.
I'd still say this is largely bunk. :D
Literally the only thing I miss about my commute was listening to podcasts/lectures from The Great Courses etc.
I'd still say this is largely bunk. :D
JohnW@carnage4life There appears to be significant commuting time between one ear and the other.
Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸@carnage4life after 20 years of commuting 2hr roundtrip (at least) a day and, most illuminating of all, 2 years of remote work: I can confirm this headline is absolute nonsense. 😬 That “Liminal space” is a huge portion of wasted life that could be spent with family, friends, or even, wait for it, doing nothing and recharging.
nickapos
Speed demon 🇪🇺 🇳🇴🇺🇦🇵🇸@chris @carnage4life I you commute by train, it makes some sense. Even then I prefer a shorter commute, and maybe a walk or a nap or feeding the cat
@hakona @carnage4life for sure. Unfortunately us car-bound North American train or even bus are rarely an option.
Tiffany Li@carnage4life love to psychologically recover in bumper-to-bumper rush hour traffic, definitely helps me relax and detach from stress
Elliot
Down10@carnage4life I refuse to believe the writers of these kinds of stories believe them. They just need to make the boss happy. Nobody with any integrity could actually stand behind these kinds of grotesque thoughts.
Brock Chapin (bchap1n)@carnage4life lost they damn minds
Peter Lichota@carnage4life How to rationalize a daily waste of time! I never thought of it as anything else…
Fyzzlefry@carnage4life Last time I checked I'm sober during rush hour. So no.
ra1n@carnage4life I can understand an aspect of this. The space separation of home and work can be important for some. The downside though is. The commute and level of distractions, nosey co-workers, helicopter bosses, etc. can contribute to more stress than you would save by separating the environments.
Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping@carnage4life there is a very limited set of circumstances where this can be true (public transport for 20m to work), otherwise - holy hell
Humbird0 Fandom@carnage4life
A commute is NOT the same as free time.
Unless maybe things are stressful at your home too?
But for me, I can tell you from experience that this doesn't really work. For 10 years I did a 2-hour commute to and from work by bus. (2 hours each way) And I only ended up with about 4 hours of free time each day. I eventually burned out.
You need to be AT HOME where you can actually do things you enjoy to truly unwind.
@carnage4life
Watching YouTube on my phone is not a hobby.
Watching YouTube on my phone is not a hobby.
Big Nurse Mike@carnage4life OR, and hear me out, by working from home I could use the 2 hours per day I would have spent in traffic huffing carbon monoxide, to relax with a good book and a hot beverage.
Melinda@carnage4life
Sounds like a property investor's advice column for stress. They obviously never commute, that is the most stressful part of the day! Also with climate change, managing to work without commuting is cutting down on greenhouse gases. So it's a win, win. The property investors can take their untested hypothesis and accept the world has changed, they are no longer required.
Sounds like a property investor's advice column for stress. They obviously never commute, that is the most stressful part of the day! Also with climate change, managing to work without commuting is cutting down on greenhouse gases. So it's a win, win. The property investors can take their untested hypothesis and accept the world has changed, they are no longer required.
Ursidinoj/The Bjornsdottirs@carnage4life everybody works but the vacant lot
Joseph Zitt@carnage4life This works for me -- but I walk to work.
A couple of decades ago, I worked from home while living in Washington, DC, and had trouble getting started with my work day. I fixed it by going down to the corner and getting a buttered bagel and coffee to go. When I stepped back into my house, the work day began.
LadyPeedOffAgain@carnage4life My husband works from home and goes for a walk first thing to clear his head. He's certainly calmer on those days than the day he has to drive to the Cambridge office from our home in Suffolk. Though not as apoplectic as when he regularly commuted to London by train and the trains would always be delayed or cancelled. A few times I had to drive to collect him from the nearest station he could get to home.
Solskinn@carnage4life Good to know. I'll be sure to get on a crowded bus for a half hour roundtrip after finishing work at home to enjoy the liminal space 😂.
msgbi
kira :3@carnage4life ah yes, traffic, the famously non-stressful thing
Milonguero cyclista@carnage4life Well it does work that way, but only if you commute by bicycle or on foot.
LR@carnage4life last time i read a good book was in the 60 minutes subway time i got every workday
ok and when i was in the hospital for three days
Cineau@carnage4life picturing said two management scholars in air conditioned “limos” no doubt pontificating on “commuting” as their driver “listens” to their “people as chess pieces on their management chess board” drivel if they dont have the window up - am sure they romanticise public transport in covid times too 😷
Fraud Guy@carnage4life or you could psychologically detach so much while commuting that you don't remember the drive home at all...
ᴊᴏʟʟʏ ᴍɴᴇᴍᴏɴɪᴄ@carnage4life It works for me. My commute is a 30 minute bike ride. Your experience may differ if you are stuck in traffic for over an hour twice daily.
@carnage4life yeah that sounds about right, the best way to detach from work is to spend a few hours of your life commuting. /s
Stephen Castro-Starkey@carnage4life Hahaha! Seems likely.
Rotfarm@carnage4life this operates on the same neoliberal level that won't say "having people not be at home makes them spend more money" out loud
Sue Smith@carnage4life The inclusion of "liminal space" is *chef's kiss* 🃏
Henning Paul DC4HP@carnage4life No, it's true. The Danish say "Don't shit where you eat", and the Germans say "Duty is duty, and booze is booze".
There is a place for working and there is a place for living. And these places need to be different.
There is a place for working and there is a place for living. And these places need to be different.
@hennichodernich @carnage4life Nonsense. I work at a desk literally 6 feet (2 meters) from where I sleep.
Transitioning is as easy as having a short routine (go to the bathroom, take the lunch dishes to the kitchen, go get the mail, say hello to the family, etc).
Mental transitioning requires no more than 3-4 minutes.
Kelvin n0mql EN35ld
denial@carnage4life one weird trick my WFH household has discovered— you can get the same effect from taking a lil walk at 5pm