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George Takei 
🏳️🌈🖖🏽Long overdue but still welcome.
krystof
Walkerjody@georgetakei about damn time! Love is love ❤️
Andreas M. Heitmann 
@georgetakei Remember: with the next old guy in women dresses everything changes again. The Catholic Church never changes their behavior. Only one solution helps: every EXIT counts ..!
jeSuisatire neindochohh ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷUnless they try to hunt in evangelic territory they have no chance but to reform if they want to retain their wealth and the power they have left. And that btw doesn't look to be the reason for this one to do what he is doing.
@jesuisatire @georgetakei There is yet another option: No Religion at all. Because there is not one religion on this planet that is not destructive ...
Kein Alkohol ist auch keine Lösung ..
@jesuisatire Was hat das mit dem Thema zu tun? …
Nun ja, selbst die Aussage "keine Religion" kann sein oder ist gar ebenso ein Absolutismus wie die meisten Religion absolutistisch sind oder zu einem Problem werden wenn sie absolutistisch werden.
Als Tinktur (Alk!) im richtigen Masse als kultureller Erfahrungswert und richtungdweisendem Hinweis sind sie ja vielleicht an und zu zu was zu gebrauchen.
Und Buddisten würden dir eh zustimmen während andere Behaupten würden "ist doch auch ne Religion!"
@jesuisatire Also hast du nichts inhaltliches zum Thema beizutragen. Danke für das Gespräch … 🙄
@jesuisatire Das wird es sein …
möglich, nicht zwingend aber (auch) möglich.
Chris Mingus@georgetakei I believe that God is love personified, and I don't believe that he would damn someone just because their love isn't typical. (Except for child predators)
wednesday the valkyrja@georgetakei pope francis seems like a compassionate man.
this is a step in the right direction. he supports workers rights and unions too. i think he is christ-like, which is good for a pope.
i disagree with it being considered a sin, but it's supporting decriminalization is an important step.
sends a message to catholics everywhere to be more tolerant of the LGBTQ+ community.
yes_cymru_AnkhMorpork@superheroine @georgetakei yn union. Exactly.
mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm bitPickup@superheroine
At least a considered answer out here given the circumstances.
If you want to interpretate him I guess you'd need to know about the different branches of Catholics and in his case franziskans in particular.
This man once said:
"Yes, it's better if you hit your child on the "Popo", not in the face!"
Germans wanted to crucify him:
"How can you say it's good to hit a child!"
He knew that he was speaking to the whole latin american continent, and beating only the "Popo" is advancing.
thank you for that information. in my church the prophet also gives statements that are steps but measured. i think it's to slowly move conservatives forward without causing schism in the church (again).
it can be a bit frustrating and i don't fully know how i feel about it. i think negatively but i also understand.
Jyrgen N@georgetakei I didn't think I'd live to see that.
Clu | #RipNatenom 🕯@georgetakei "It is not a crime. Yes, but it is a sin." Plus: Still valid for him and his likes: The words of the Catechism, which names homosexuality a "grave aberration". And that all homosexual people have to live their lives in chastity.
I really don't see any progress. Bergoglio may not be as evil as Ratzinger, but he is close.
Here's an article about his statement (the original is in German, so I use Goole Translate): https://www-queer-de.translate.goog/detail.php?article_id=44472&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Wilfried Klaebe@moskitokoenig @georgetakei Homosexuality, or "only" homosexual acts? They tend to be finicky there...
@wonka @georgetakei As far as the article explains, it is homosexuality which should be regarded as sin and grave aberration.
The chastity part is, of course, about homosexual acts.
I added this link in my original comment: https://www-queer-de.translate.goog/detail.php?article_id=44472&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
The chastity part is, of course, about homosexual acts.
I added this link in my original comment: https://www-queer-de.translate.goog/detail.php?article_id=44472&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
> I really don't see any progress.
From the stands of someone who bothers about inside the catholic church I guess.
What if his statement is about terrestrial law of countries, not heaven on earth and the catholic church?
@bitpickup I'm not part of any church or religious group. I do however loathe people who try to impose their will on my life - and sadly the Roman Catholic Church HAS a profound impact on societies.
It does, yet we shouldn't add to that by paying more attention than necessary to them.
Teapot
Matej Završnik@georgetakei Centuries overdue...
@georgetakei Original article: https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-gay-rights-ap-interview-1359756ae22f27f87c1d4d6b9c8ce212
Not a crime but still a sin... well, better than before anyways.
Not a crime but still a sin... well, better than before anyways.
The AP Interview: Pope says homosexuality not a crime
VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis criticized laws that criminalize homosexuality as “unjust,” saying God loves all his children just as they are and called on Catholic bishops who support the laws to welcome LGBTQ people into the church.
alice
ser@georgetakei
Best. Pope. Ever.
Best. Pope. Ever.
skua@georgetakei
On one hand we have Donald Trump as the Once and possibly Future President of the USA, on the other hand we have the RCC continuing to disemble and avoid its responsibilities for decades of sexual abuse of children, and on the other hand we have the Pontif in Rome throwing the RCC behind the decriminalisation of homosexuality.
It ain't all bad.
Timothy Schwinghamer (he/him)@georgetakei the Pope is literally lying. Even here in #Canada, #gay people are subject to surveillance & criminalization for a variety of things that are parts of gay life. (E.g. public sex, etc.) Such social, systemic criminalization is a result of the actions of the Catholic Church that has subjected 2SLGBTQIA+ people to social condemnation and sanctioned violence against us for centuries. Oh I could go on.
Chester6Red@schwinghamer @georgetakei Knew he’s lying, can’t stand him or the church, all evil
Darryl 🇵🇸 🇺🇦@georgetakei he still calls it a sin and would persecute this people in other ways. He is still quite wrong in his position, just less wrong, but that is still quite far from good.
marca56@georgetakei Do Evangelicals follow the Catholic Church and the Pope? Just asking for a friend…
Mary Alicia Ziff@georgetakei
finally, a Pope who steps up, you're right, took him long enough though. Probably had to wait for Benedict XVI to die.
Now, if he'd only allow women into the Priesthood...,
finally, a Pope who steps up, you're right, took him long enough though. Probably had to wait for Benedict XVI to die.
Now, if he'd only allow women into the Priesthood...,
> Do Evangelicals follow the Catholic Church ..
If they can make money out of it sure!
.. otherwise, naah ..
ManicPixieJeepGirl@georgetakei yeah OK. It's a nice sentiment, but so much damage has and still is done because of that fucking criminal empire.
Words mean little when their actions are still so quiet
Alessandro Macilenti@georgetakei "homosexuality is a sin, not a crime", thus against divine law, thus admitting that divine law is more unjust and primitive than human law
Blamellors@georgetakei watch the evangelical “Christian “ reaction to this . Pope Francis is often not considered legitimate by the political evangelical establishment.
> Pope Francis is often not considered legitimate by the political evangelical establishment.
Of course not, as a franziskan who doesn't care about pomp and money, how could he?
Kevin Karhan 
@georgetakei propably stopped drinking and smoking Frankincense till he got sober for once...
But it's good to see the Catholic Church finally reaching 18th century...
GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)@kkarhan 18. Jahrhundert? 1969 hat Deutschland Homosexualität erst legalisiert, und das auch erst ab 21
@GreenSkyOverMe Das war #Sarkasmus...
IMHO gehört die #Kinderfickersekte als kriminelle Vereinigung verboten und deren Vermögen zwecks entschädigung der Opfer beschlagnahmt!
nich so viel realität auf einmal, teile deiner antwort könnten katholiken verunsichern ..
@GreenSkyOverMe
Silvia Rasmussen@georgetakei I was so happy to hear that this morning. Slowly but surely progress is being made. It helped boost me past the crappy news I have been hearing today.
Savah Rellcast@georgetakei it's so bizarre to see the pope be a voice of reason. I'm glad he has the bravery to get it done.
Bluedepth@georgetakei Watch out for the Pontiff Two-Step. He's done this before. Comes out with some crazy jazz-hands shocker, and then a few days later says something truly awful about the same marginalized group. "We should accept gays..." // "It's best to feed the LGBT to lions." He runs both, hot and cold.
So I take this with a huge grain of salt. We should wait for his other slipper to drop before we get all loud and happy.
Brett Clubbe@georgetakei and time to remind the Doctrine of Discovery.
DidiQ@georgetakei
He needs to say it’s not a sin.
He needs to say it’s not a sin.
Heroness Glassylady
Nic@georgetakei I can’t think of any other popes but this guy has to be my favorite one.
Guac@georgetakei interesting how the pope seems to have such a clear idea of what is and isn’t a crime, and still, child abusing priests go unpunished.
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Tweet by @JamesMartinSJ
BREAKING: An immense step forward. Pope Francis calls for the decriminalization of homosexuality worldwide: "Declaring such laws 'unjust,' Francis said the Catholic Church can and should work to put an end to them. 'It must do this. It must do this.'"
Tweet by @JamesMartinSJ
BREAKING: An immense step forward. Pope Francis calls for the decriminalization of homosexuality worldwide: "Declaring such laws 'unjust,' Francis said the Catholic Church can and should work to put an end to them. 'It must do this. It must do this.'"
MandyTheClown@georgetakei for the first time in my life I feel somewhat welcome in my lords church. I am a practicing Catholic. I also am an LGBTQ, supporter and I am also bisexual. I do not have a committed partner so I live according to the cathechism. I believe firmly that one’s sexual orientation is not a sin. I believe the abuse of one’s body, or the abuse of another, including sexual objectification, is the sin. The Catholic Church needs to come to grips with body autonomy.
ikane1984@georgetakei not before time. My local catholic cathedral is under investigation for paedophillia, orgies, and lockdown drinking sessions. I shan’t be taking them seriously on what is and isn’t a sin. Not that sin even exists.
The Doctor@georgetakei Not what I expected at all.