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Tiffany LiMy timeline is full of layoffs in media and tech. What’s worse is that healthcare in this country is tied to your job. If you lose your job, you lose your ability to pay for doctor’s visits, hospital stays, even life-saving medicine. America deserves better.
I love this country and her people, and I want so much better for all of us.
anubis2814@tiffanycli Actual definition of patriotism
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Gabriel Bauman@tiffanycli it’s organizin’ time
regphunt@tiffanycli This is why Obamacare, and why Universal Healthcare is an issue.
Clear Voice@tiffanycli you are telling me. In the richest country in the world, people don't have health insurance!!! And this is not changing any time soon.
author_is_ShrikeTron🔠💉x5@Voice99 @tiffanycli Like QElon, the country is "rich" because it's not spent on the people but horded among the rich and corps.
Esparta@Voice99 @tiffanycli that's correct, people who do the laws and blocks the change see themselves as saivors of their country, you don't want universal health care, that's communism!!
People who vote and support the above seem themselves as supportive of their freedom (?). Why in the hell would I pay for another guy's health?, screw them!
When they get old they just flee to a country with universal health care because healthcare in US is way too expensive!! Why??
Florrie@esparta @Voice99 @tiffanycli "Why in the hell would I pay for another guy's health?, screw them!" This is Republican/libertarian voters as a whole and their phoney patriotism. We should be looking out for each other, caring about our neighbors and even people we don't know. We're stronger and better together. But they can't see past the end of their nose.
@FlorriePuddlefoot totally agree, sorry if I miss the quotes, I was running out of space and the discussion had me so angry. I get why people in power do oppose to plans to provide minimal and dignified health care (they all are greedy, and look to keep their wealth for their own people,) but I don't get why the common people eat all that turd?
Is it so hard to understand that health is not an individual problem? Wasn't the pandemic clear enough?
@esparta I know that throwing the word "toxic" in front of another word may seem trite, but American (toxic) Individualism has sent us careening towards a cliff and we have got to find a way to pull back, find a way to get us all caring about each other. We have such a long way to go; voting rights, taxes, education, jobs, wages, health care. I'm not sure it's in American's nature though.
@FlorriePuddlefoot I'm not sure if it is an American thing. But I'm pretty sure it is human nature to try to be whatever "best" means for, and surely the ultra-individualist doesn't think it will be accomplished while also taking care of someone else's - again, besides their closest ones.
Shokk@tiffanycli up until 2015 I used to think that every time something like this happens in society, maybe this is the time we’ll see this evolve to taking better care of each other. Now, as a society, half of us are actively trying to undermine themselves and the other half.
Eirliani A Rahman@tiffanycli Tiffany, I cannot agree with you more. Thank you for highlighting this.
Paisley P. Peinforte 🪬@tiffanycli They want to keep it that way to have more leverage over workers. People are loathe to risk the ire of their employers if their health depends on keeping that job.
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@paisley_peinforte @tiffanycli The current system ensures that you are an employee and not a competitor.
JeanJaures@tiffanycli We need M4A. Medicare for All.
Adam@tiffanycli Of course I wish the USA could be much better about that, but given history, I'm not sure I'd say we deserve it. :-/
Kenneth John Bardsley@tiffanycli America, as the rest of the world, needs universal health care free at the point of use, paid for out of general taxation. If taxes have to rise, so be it.
Mushifoot@tiffanycli see also: going on strike
Francisca Sinn@tiffanycli This is why Republicans refuse to establish Universal Healthcare like civilized societies. They *want* it tied to your employer so people are trapped. Universal Healthcare breeds and supports entrepreneurship, mobility, and freedom. Serf-lords don’t like that.
Republicans have proven they will choose to feed for-profit hospitals and insurance businesses rather than individuals. Unconscionable and shameful.
Dixzy@tiffanycli and they did it right after open enrollment ended
ckinneen@tiffanycli 100 percent true.
BeachwoodReport@tiffanycli Yup. And it should be framed this way. "In order to protect seven- and eight-figure compensation packages, and record profit margins for institutional investors, the senior executives of Widgets Inc. cut 10,000 people from access to life-saving medical care Tuesday."
Stephen Foskett@tiffanycli @donmelton As a business owner I 1000% agree! I feel incredibly responsible for the health and welfare of my employees and live in constant fear that a poor business decision by me might deprive their families and children of necessary medicine or other healthcare. It’s an awful feeling. I know many other business people couldn’t care less about such things but some of us do!
Benj Edwards@tiffanycli Indeed. We have a very broken healthcare system
Scenario@tiffanycli My wife just got laid off. I refuse to pay for health insurance with no income. Will roll the dice until I go back to work. 😷
Darwin Woodka@scenario @tiffanycli your state plan might be affordable or even free depending on where you live.
@darwinwoodka @tiffanycli Free? In America? 🤣
Batz@tiffanycli because there’s never been a time where your ability to work is tied to some kind of health concern……….
@tiffanycli Humans deserve better.
ceesar@tiffanycli 100% agreed. But, also, worse than that - the fact healthcare is tied to employment prevents upward mobility. People are less willing to take risks to seek out better jobs, because (1) healthcare insurance often does not start immediately leaving a period without coverage or (2) “what if” scenarios (not successful / unhappy / bad fit / doesn’t work out / etc in new role). It’s a form of servitude. The American people deserve much much better.
Daniel Lo Nigro 🇦🇺@tiffanycli I'm from Australia originally, and it's weird to me that some Americans are against free and universal health care. It'd make things cheaper for everyone.
Bestfootforward@tiffanycli I'm tooting from Australia.
We have universal health care. It's called Medicare and it's just a very slight increase in the tax rate....and all people get it (even those without a job....it's like those with a job assist those without a job).
We do still have a private health system...as often there's a long wait time for surgery in the public system. But theoretically anyone can see a doctor, go to hospital for a broken limb or whatever, get subsidised medicine.
It's a system not based on employment.
We have universal health care. It's called Medicare and it's just a very slight increase in the tax rate....and all people get it (even those without a job....it's like those with a job assist those without a job).
We do still have a private health system...as often there's a long wait time for surgery in the public system. But theoretically anyone can see a doctor, go to hospital for a broken limb or whatever, get subsidised medicine.
It's a system not based on employment.
Christine Sykes@tiffanycli I agree wholeheartedly. The healthcare situation in the United States is untenable.
NomadicNerd (StoleUrSweetroll)@tiffanycli and the ACA and Medicaid system is trash. I’m a medical professional contractor and it’s cheaper for me to go through the ACA for my insurance then it is to go through my agency and I don’t have to worry about losing coverage between contracts or switching agencies. It’s slightly cheaper but worse coverage and trying to get my children covered has been a nightmare.  I’ve been comparing with my Australian friends and I’m so jealous.