what was your first social network?
(plz boost for sample size) 
what was your first social network?
(plz boost for sample size) 
I ran a TriBBS for a while, complete with EchoMail for forums and private messages. it was set up like a phone tree, in that you had a scheduled time to contact your “hub” and swap message packages. it was automated and, unless you had a multi-line BBS your board would go offline during the swap.
@sanderdatema @ancient_catbus @randomdent I was on the bbs a lot but I don't remember doing fidonet. I do remember the logo.
I think I was mostly lurking and stealing files and proto-games. I wasn't cool enough to talk to anyone over fidonet. So that made me so very much uncool.
@randomdent Hi, as a former BBS (Co)SysOp:
BBSes were typically single instantiations with internal messaging (& email). Some ran FidoNet echos (basically FidoNet messaging) as well.
I participated/(Co)SysOped some Citadels which had their own networking (including anti-vortexing [aka message de-duplication]).
I was also a Co-SysOp of VisionSoft which eventually got UUCP & limited NNTP access. Surak (one of the other SysOps) eventually founded mbay.net (an early 408 ISP).
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@randomdent Other BBSes (if they had multiple phone lines) even had realtime multi-user instant messaging (similar to ICB or IRC or XMPP). VisionSoft had such things.
Trivia: the first (unreleased) buffer overflow exploit I wrote targeted Monterey Gaming System (408 area code) which was a proprietary multi-line/chat system. I wrote it in Hayes Smartmodem ]['s macro scripting language.
I used it to grab the equivalent of ops & disconnect/hang up the op. Only tested it once. ;)
The trigger itself was gleaned when attempting to transfer a file to a friend via private messaging.
Apparently the Z-modem start sequence was mis-interpreted & crashed a buffer, disconnecting the friend (thankfully, he misunderstood it as line noise, but we tried again: it was REPEATABLE! I scripted it up not much later and tested it once, but never used it for anything malicious. I also never disclosed it to the MGS operators though, who IIRC, were later implicated as child molesters? Yikes.)
I created a similar bugdoor type script against VisionSoft some time later (though that sploit I am pretty sure I wrote in Terminus' macro script language). Basically, VisionSoft/CNET BBS had some functionality to display a text file using on-the-fly decompression.
I found a file that crashed the board when I tried to read it.
So, I created a script to *read* that file if I got connected to the 300baud modem and wanted to xfer files faster.
That was wrong of me. I should have informed Surak.
Basically, if I connected at 300baud, I would launch the script, it would crash the board, and then redial rapidly until it re-connected (and since the board had crashed, and I was redialing so fast, I was usually able to get connected to one of the faster modems).
I used it maybe two or three times?
Still a dick move, it probably caused disruption and instilled distrust.
In my defense, I was just a minor and unpaid, but I should have been holding myself to a higher standard & helping more.
@greg_harvey @randomdent Is it really!?
I still know my ICQ #
@randomdent @greg_harvey @grahamsz I was alive for BBS and maybe posted a few things but I feel like that shouldn’t count.
Perhaps that’s why ICQ excluded? I remember it being more of a Messenger and not a Network.
What’s the difference?
A network allows for people to create and share content publicly within the network. 🤔
If you haven't logged-in to your ICQ since it was bought by a Russian company, don't. Once you do and you don't login for 1 year, they'll delete your account without any warning, and they won't recover it.
But accounts which were not logged-in before they took over remain in the system, in case the owner returns. (I think it was part of their acquisition condition.)
I lost my account that way. It was UIN: 17787180.
You have to reset with the email that was last attached to it. At least that's what I did when I first tried to reactivate it. But once you do, you'll have to log in at least once a year. They'll also migrate your account to the “new ICQ”.
Then again, no one in my ICQ contacts are using it anymore, everyone were offline last time I had access. ^_^;;
It's surprising the new owner is keeping it alive, when AIM, YM, MSN messengers were long gone.
@youronlyone @greg_harvey @randomdent Alas I no longer have that email, so i guess that's the problem.
My parents have remarkably not changed ISP in 27 years, but they changed the format of their email addresses so I doubt I can get in to reactivate it.
@randomdent no BBS? Pfft
Not really social network I suppose.
It'll be IRC or Newsgroups then, I can't remember what I used first in this life
BBS is the 1st option. "bbs/fidonet"
@ladysun1969 @randomdent I'm blind!
I blame my human
@ada @randomdent @dxciBel Me too.
Me too.
@aurynn @ada @randomdent @dxciBel Nope. They're still limping along. Some Russian company bought it off of AOL quite a few years ago now and have been trying to position it as a mobile messenger and, more lately, video conferencing platform.
One should very much not use it.