Maria HillJan 13, 2023

Republicans have nothing of substance to talk about, so they're pretending that President Biden is going to break down your door and haul away your gas stove. Maybe he's hooking up a trailer to his Corvette?

Look at all of these states that have made sure that individual cities can't pass climate-friendly legislation to prevent gas stoves in new construction. Not taking anything away – if you want to move into an apartment with a gas range, you pick an apartment built before 2019 or 2027.

(The graphic is from 2022. Only the states that are red on this map have passed laws preventing gas bans. Michigan's legislation didn't pass and former Pennsylvania Gov. Wolf vetoed that state's bill.)

I like gas cooking too. I shrugged when I found the right condo and it was electric, not gas. Now that I've learned about the climate and health issues of gas, I'm glad I have electric.

First article from today, second from 2022 re: legislaion

https://www.cnet.com/health/will-there-be-a-gas-stove-ban-heres-what-to-know/

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/17/politics/natural-gas-ban-preemptive-laws-gop-climate/index.html

Will There Be a Gas Stove Ban? Here's What to Know

Research shows that natural gas stoves produce dangerous levels of air pollutants.

CNET
Show threadMJJan 14, 2023

@MariaHill

As a super liberal who is surrounded by super liberals, not one time has anyone ever identified gas stoves as our next hill to do battle.
We’re all still caught up with disenfranchised voters and the right to our bodily privacy etc.

Show threadAgentCarter    💙💛Jan 14, 2023

@MJ @MariaHill
Did most of the people replying to you decide to take the weekend off from reading comprehension, MJ?!
Here you are talking about the important things we should be focusing on, and all most of them seem to be replying with is 'but mah gas stove!'

Fuck the gas stoves. I don't care what I'm cooking on until we get equal voting rights for all and bodily autonomy.

*Edited to acknowledge that there were a few replies that stayed on topic.

Show threadTony Stark

@AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @MJ The “hippy kooks” one is really bad.

The point of Maria’s post and MJ’s reply, as I’ve talked to both, is that NOBODY is coming to take your damn gas stove, not that liberals are overreaching.

Jan 14, 2023 at 5:33pmWeb
Show threadMJJan 14, 2023
@MariaHill @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR Thank you, friends.
Show threadMaria HillJan 14, 2023

@TonyStark

Eric Swalwell was on with Mehdi Hasan last night. He said, "If I look a little sore, it's because I spent the afternoon removing gas stoves from all the Republicans on my block."

That's what a farce this is. Your member of Congress provides many constituent services. Removing your gas stoves is not one of them, let alone by force.

What the government, via the Inflation Reduction Act passed by the Democratic 177th Congress, will provide you with is up to $840 in tax rebates for switching from a gas stove to an electric one, including induction, and up to $500 to cover the costs of converting from natural gas or propane to electric. There are additional rebates for switching other appliances too.

@AgentCarter_SSR @MJ

https://www.consumerreports.org/appliances/inflation-reduction-act-and-new-electric-appliance-rebates-a3460144904/

What the Inflation Reduction Act Could Mean for Your Next Appliance Purchase

Consumer Reports explains you how you might qualify for the electric appliance rebates included in the Inflation Reduction Act.

Consumer Reports
Show threadTim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPEJan 14, 2023
@MariaHill @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MJ
Is that an ongoing tax break, to cover that electricity costs around four times as much as gas, or is it just to help with the capital cost?
Show threadMaria HillJan 14, 2023

@TimWardCam

Tax rebate on your purchase of an appliance.

Take it up with your legislators, not me, if you want more breaks for switching. You're not going to get it from this Congress. They're more likely to give tax breaks to people who want to burn as many fossil fuels as possible.

@TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MJ

Show threadTim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPEJan 14, 2023

@MariaHill @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MJ Just looking at the economics here.

In the UK for example, heat pumps are being promoted, but after the capital cost you're looking at electricity at four times the price of gas for an efficiency of only three times - the numbers just don't add up for ordinary people. So ... fork out a large capital sum in order to have higher ongoing costs? - not an easy sell.

Show threadMaria HillJan 14, 2023

Also, 117th Congress, typo I didn't catch before it had replies.

@TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MJ

Show threadclimate voter/degrowthistJan 14, 2023
@MariaHill @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MJ Let the nonwoke dissolve into their own poisonous kitchens.
Show threadLiberalEleetJan 14, 2023
@MariaHill @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MJ Can he swing by my place? New location has gas stove and I don’t like it. I’ll take electric over gas every time.
Show threadMJJan 14, 2023
@MariaHill @AgentCarter_SSR @TonyStark I bet you he could do it if he wanted to.
Show threadTheBatmanJan 15, 2023
@TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @MJ no one is coming for anyone’s gas stove, no one is coming to take their guns, no one is coming to take their hamburgers, no one is coming to take their trucks,no one is coming to do any of the things FOX tells their uninformed base to be afraid of constantly. Same pattern, different fear flavor of the month. All they have to sell is fear to keep the base in line.
Show threadTony StarkJan 15, 2023
@AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @TheBatman @MJ And, on top of that, they are actually coming for people’s things- like their bodily autonomy, healthcare, Social Security, and right to marry who we want.
Show threadTheBatmanJan 15, 2023
@TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @MJ very true. The whole “they’re coming to take away everything and all your rights” is actually projection. Which is another MAGA technique they learned from Goebbels “accuse your enemies of doing that which you are actually doing”. People who have studied history can see the obvious similarities between NAZI propaganda and the current MAGA movement.
Show threadReal_JamesCainJan 15, 2023
@TheBatman @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @MJ Too bad history had to endure a holocaust before it stopped.
Show threadHumble Fan of Atty. WooJan 15, 2023
@TheBatman @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @MJ
And trump uses it ALL THE TIME, accuses others of doing exactly what he is already doing, ergo, voter fraud....when several Repubs have been caught doing it, most recently in Iowa with the wife of a losing candidate is charged with at least 23 counts of voter fraud. Since she is a Repub, I'm wagering she does zero time. Probation. carry on.
Show threadTed_CvilleJan 16, 2023
@TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @TheBatman @MJ Right! And they are so cynical that most of them probably care little if at all all about any of these issues, but promote them simply to solidify their MAGA and christo- nationalist base.
Show threadGATEKEEPERJan 15, 2023

@TheBatman @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill
@MJ

Every year the "right " demonizes something, It's Guns, hamburgers, books, or Fauci. It's simply a distraction becase they're to stupid to debate real issues.

Show threadAliSnarkbarJan 15, 2023
@TheBatman @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @MJ damn, I was all fired up there for a minute.. thought we'd be calling it the stove wars..
Show threadSkiBumMeJan 15, 2023

@TheBatman @TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @MJ anyone remember the “death panels”. Or Trump saying our suburbs will get destroyed?

Sarah Palin 2009 “The America I know and love is not one … Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care.”

Trump 2020 “if Biden is elected the suburbs will be gone”

Show threadHarry Tuttle, heating engineerJan 15, 2023
@TonyStark @AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @MJ the point of my liberal kooks post was that the media will dutifully report that “liberal kooks want to take your stove”, not that liberals want to do that. Just a reminder and complaint that establishment media will treat the ridiculous claims of GOP so they will look fair or balanced.
Show threadTony StarkJan 15, 2023
@AgentCarter_SSR @MariaHill @CinciMike @MJ Super not clear but I appreciate the clarification now.