KiwiJohnJan 12, 2023
Laffy

Jason Kander:

Classified #documents - a shopping analogy:

As #Biden walked out, the buzzer went off and he realized he mistakenly failed to pay for an item in his cart. He went back in and returned it.

#Trump stuffed items in his pockets. When the buzzer sounded, he ran to his car and peeled out.

Jan 12, 2023 at 4:16pmWeb
Show threadLaffyJan 12, 2023

2/ Emptywheel, in part:

We don't have evidence that Biden ACCESSED the docs after they were stored. We have that with Trump.

And we still suspect there are outstanding docs in Trump's possession, or worse.

Show threadThe Febrile MuseJan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff sold ones, I am guessing.
Show threadf*cking b*tch clubJan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff
‘I wasn’t even in that store, it’s a stupid store, but even if I was, so what? Doesn’t everybody shoplift?’ 😵‍💫
Show threadBathsheba BlueJan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff
Then trump led police on a year long+ chase. After being caught he declared the stolen items actually belonged to him bc he wanted them.
Show threadJames_PondJan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff
#Trump stuffed items in his pockets. When the buzzer sounded, he ran to his car and peeled out, and sold them to the highest bidder!
Show threadJmsjmsJan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff No. Someone behind Biden handling the shopping cart didn’t scan properly. This is a big problem for DOJ attorneys and what will be straight to trial by jurors of peers. This clouds the potential pool even more. This is not an easy case, nor are any of them. Not cause evidence isn’t clear to US, but jury instructions and some dude who is simply one of those “contrarian” on principle types, can gum up all these troubles and possible prosecutions.#politics
Show threadMaggyWJan 12, 2023
@jmsjms @GottaLaff what??? A big problem how?
Show threadJmsjmsJan 12, 2023
@MaggyW @GottaLaff because if I’m a $600 hour defense attorney the first things I’m doing:
1. Requesting motion to dismiss. Which mixes the public among two “classified” document “cases.”
2. At jury selection, I’m including within the questionnaire a) aware of President Biden.
That’s how
Show threadLaffyJan 12, 2023
@jmsjms Ohhh, okay. @MaggyW
Show threadMaggyWJan 18, 2023
@jmsjms @GottaLaff no wrong doing has been identified yet.
Show threadLaffyJan 12, 2023
@MaggyW He's replying to a tweet by Jason Kander that I posted, which is simply a Trump vs Biden comparison on the docs. I don't know what he's saying, exactly. @jmsjms
Show threadJmsjmsJan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff @MaggyW I’ll make it even more clear. None of the criminal investigations will result in plea agreements. Zero.
The attorneys representing the accused will use dozens of hearings to establish jury pool questionnaires and then of course be included in striking or keeping particular jurors. A sitting president making an honest mistake vs dark of night hiding is NOT going to be the defense argument but can influence an average “Joe” and impact jury instructions.
Show threadMarcus Marcius MarcellusJan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff Except that it wasn't even Biden doing the shopping.
Show thread⚳ rapid unscheduled assembly ⚳Jan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff When the cops got to his house, he claimed that he'd marked them all as free, in his mind, and not told anyone.
Show threadSeculoidJan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff trump sucks, but this is a bad analogy because stealing from corporations is based
Show threadBearGJan 12, 2023

@GottaLaff Pretty good analogy. My experience working in a TS/SCI/TK/B environment may also help. Has a highly classified printout on my desk. Left the room for potty break. The door to the room has no security features. Someone came into my room and placed the printout in my briefcase. For some reason, I checked my briefcase before I left for home and almost had a COW! Just because that room was my office did not mean that someone else could not get in.

At least the location of the documents found in the Biden search were in facilities that probably had government permission to hold classified documents. The documents were probably also not stored in cardboard boxes.

Show threadMoonlit Cat 🏳️‍🌈Jan 12, 2023
@GottaLaff sounds about right...
Show threadSouthern LeftistJan 12, 2023

@GottaLaff
True.

Biden tried to repair his slipup, returning the documents to their proper owner: The National Archives.

Trump discreetly stole boxloads of documents, which confutes the argument that he "didn't intend to steal them."
Afterwards, the FBI had to raid his resort to retrieve them.

See the difference? 'Cause I am.

Show threadLaffyJan 12, 2023

@south_lib And lied about them. And ignored the authorities. And said he owned them.

Biden voluntarily returned them, didn't know about them, and whoever slipped up will likely be fired.

Show thread72mzJan 13, 2023
@GottaLaff Not a bad analogy, but classified documents are not cans of peas.
Show threadmorningstar54Jan 13, 2023
@GottaLaff Oh, pleez, I’m trying to get your analogy, but can’t get past the thought of trump running anywhere…