Really. If a man can use magic to transform into a wolf/bat/dragon/elf, why not into a woman?
@carithlee Didn't we all wear a belt of gender change at some time or another?
"Oh, I can't get it off. Must be cursed."
@gingeridot @carithlee especially if it's not permanent. Imagine witches are exiled, but it's only because they brew gender fluid in bulk in a big cauldron and exist as a huge transgender polycule called a coven.
Or Cinderella, but the real reason she ran at midnight is because she's secretly the stable-boy. :3
Or little red riding hood's grandma is actually a werewolf who ran out of gender fluid when family decided to stop by.
Can you imagine the sheer volume of animal hybrids and teiflings with turbo neon hair wandering around?
Glorious.
@carithlee That's a really interesting philosophical question.
You are born in the wrong body, you get given a potion when you express this*, you're biology and gender presentation are now in line with your gender identity.
Are you still trans?
*That sounds like how transphobes claim to think trans healthcare is.
@enby_of_the_apocalypse @carithlee Did you see the OP?
If _you take a magic potion_ that means you have no memory of being in a different body and have never lived in a body that doesn't conform with your gender identity then, by your words, your experiences would be of being cis rather than being trans.
Being enby and thus trans, such a thing wouldn't have helped _me_. My problem isn't that I'm the wrong gender, it's that the binary options are not correct.
@enby_of_the_apocalypse @carithlee
Well as you may or may not know, very young children express not being the right gender. This can become a memory of theirs if associated with a trauma like being chased down the stairs and out of the house by one's mother say. Otherwise... it's something the parents remember.
So, if you don't remember an experience at all, and it wasn't traumatic can that form your personality/identity? I think it's interesting. :)
Phenomenal. Adding the Tumblr link back for those of us who want to reblog:
@carithlee I was doing research for my fantasy game world, which encompasses equivalents of Western Asia & the Middle East in the 6th C BCE
Ancient Hebrew law recognised 6 genders. Very into a more fluid interpretation
I started from that viewpoint
@dampscot @carithlee 6 genders?
*eyebrows rise*
@SitekOtaku @carithlee I have seen 6 and 8 cited
Rather than 'genders', maybe "states of being" recognised by the law
- Male
-Female
-androgynos, one who has both male and female characteristics
-Tumtum, one whose biology is unclear - aylonit, who identified as female at birth, but at puberty, develops male characteristics
-saris, who appears as male at birth, but later takes on more typically female biology.
The split to 8 is distinguishing between aylonit and saris who naturally change, and those who change though human intervention
I am not qualified to say if those distinctions were recognised or not
Maybe a good starting point
https://rac.org/blog/what-torah-teaches-us-about-gender-fluidity-and-transgender-justice
I'm sure AD&D 2nd Ed had a "cursed" item "Girdle of Gender-swap" or some such.
Looks like a "Girdle of Giant Strength" but swapped your Characters Sex.
I remember thinking "Doesn't sound cursed to me"... I should have known back then, but no representation, no way to have known what could have been.
Also: "Alzamar's Gender Fluid".
What gets me, TTRPG-wise, is none of said melons remember that the Girdle of Gender Transition was in AD&D first edition. Published circa 1974. Oy.
As far back as the late 1990s, SMAUG based muds had a "change gender" spell.
@carithlee
Author: “I wrote a book in the FantasyWorld Universe”
Fantasy Fan 2: “Cool, what’s it about?”
Author: “Well this wizard finds a way to walk through time and space, saves the planet from litterally splitting in half, and she has a talking unicorn as a companion.”
Fan 2: “Wow that sounds awesome! But wait you said she…?”
Author: “Oh, she’s trans.”
Fan 2: “Wahat! You can’t make a wizard trans, it’s impossible to suspend disbelief for such things and ruins my immersion!”