Jesse Sipprell
Paul HudsonHappy April Fools day to everyone who thinks the US date format is weird π
Clο£Ώus Guttesen πΊπ¦π³οΈβπ@twostraws There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary. And those who donβt. :-)
TonyTrink1969 π³οΈβπ
Call me Gamora
Steve Hill πΊπ¦@kometen @twostraws is it bad that I prefer dd-mm-yyyy because it messes with the bureaucratic mindset of mm/dd/yy?
dragonfrog@Steve_Hill @kometen @twostraws no. dd-mm-yyyy is better than mm-dd-yyyy, but neither of them sort properly, which is the reason they're both bad.
@dragonfrog @kometen @twostraws I am unfamiliar with sort. I mean, I know what sorting is but... Well, I sort reports and use yymm000. 000 increments one number with each report through the year. A long way to asking what is a better sorting method for you?
@Steve_Hill @kometen @twostraws I just mean, if you sort files or rows of text starting with yyyy-mm-dd alphabetically, it also gets sorted by date.
Nic Lake 
@twostraws @caseyliss Your time to shine!
Cune!@twostraws There is only one date format and it's ISO 8601.
Noah Lovelady-Allen
Iwillyeah@nloveladyallen wtf is this?
Rupert Reynolds@nloveladyallen @karina @twostraws As far as I know, *every* ISO 8601 date format puts the year first (if present) unlike all other perverse ones :-)
tchriste
Mark Gardner
β Fish Id Wardrobe@karina @twostraws Happy 23rd of Glinchtember 401?
Drew@karina @twostraws there are many of us!
πΊπ¦ Sven Seeberg@karina @twostraws I actually started using the ISO date everywhere. Feels good ;-)
Casual Observer@karina @twostraws I confess I am not fully ISO 8601 compliant as I still use YYYYMM for some documents, which apparently is a no-no.
Nibor4000 π¬π§ β
Casey Liss@twostraws thatβs because we are wrong.
Aaron L'Heureux has moved...@caseyliss @twostraws we were just trapped by language because it's January 4th. I make myself feel better about it by imagining it's [implied but omitted year]-month-day π
Sibrosan"we were just trapped by language because it's January 4th"
Het is eigenlijk gewoon 4 januari, but you guys have that wrong too π
MrScottyTay@mrscottytay @caseyliss @twostraws I mean I didn't say American English hasn't made some ... choices
Chris Wu πͺ@twostraws oh, I am so sending this to a few iOS developers, I know.
Marc Kalmes has moved@twostraws good one π
Micah WarrenHappy April Fool's day to everyone except the people it's not April Fool's day for
AlisonW βΏπ³οΈβπβΎοΈ
frank_bough
@frank_bough @twostraws
Still use inch-foot-furlong-mile and ounce-pound-stone-cwt-ton here, but yes.
Still use inch-foot-furlong-mile and ounce-pound-stone-cwt-ton here, but yes.
@AlisonW I've never heard of a furlong outside of a racetrack π I'll die before I'll personally be measured in meters though.
LouD@Iwillyeah @AlisonW we measure in centimeters tho π€£
@loudfpv who's 'we'?
@Iwillyeah we as in Dutch residents π€
@loudfpv of all the nations to be using such little units to measure yourselves in!
@Iwillyeah indeed, but makes the outcome sound huge π€£
@loudfpv precisely. There'll be no cms left for the rest of us!
@Iwillyeah π€π€
@loudfpv @Iwillyeah
There's definitely an age aspect in the UK to preferred measurements, for different purposes too.
There's definitely an age aspect in the UK to preferred measurements, for different purposes too.
@Iwillyeah
Yeah, it's specific. As are chains (measuring railway track)
Yeah, it's specific. As are chains (measuring railway track)
MarjorieR@AlisonW @Iwillyeah
Chains (which were actual steel link chains) were widely used in the UK for land survey hence an acre is area of one chain by one furlong (66 by 660 feet).
A furlong is 10 chains.
The length of cricket pitch is 1 chain.
As well as race courses distances on canals are traditionally measured and reported in miles and furlongs. Not doubt road distances were too at one time.
Chains (which were actual steel link chains) were widely used in the UK for land survey hence an acre is area of one chain by one furlong (66 by 660 feet).
A furlong is 10 chains.
The length of cricket pitch is 1 chain.
As well as race courses distances on canals are traditionally measured and reported in miles and furlongs. Not doubt road distances were too at one time.
Steve Ashmole-Day@marjolica @AlisonW @Iwillyeah and railways of course, measured in miles and chains or miles and yards, with markers every 20 chains.
@marjolica @Iwillyeah
I've used a (metal type) chain in the past, though this one was a wire rope of the correct length making it a bit lighter. 22 yards.
I've used a (metal type) chain in the past, though this one was a wire rope of the correct length making it a bit lighter. 22 yards.
Phil Burg (he/him)
Robin Capper@AlisonW @frank_bough @twostraws Does my head in reading British car related stuff.
Engine output Horsepower? Engine Capacity Litres? Fuel: Β£/Litre? Economy: Miles Per Gallon? What the?
Engine output Horsepower? Engine Capacity Litres? Fuel: Β£/Litre? Economy: Miles Per Gallon? What the?
irne jawe@frank_bough @AlisonW @twostraws year - month - day is the only way if you want things to sort properly
Louis Hoebregts
Miss Congeniality - Describe your perfect date?
Gethin Coles@AlisonW @twostraws backwards it's me for but mmddyy than better
@geth @twostraws
Thing is MMDDYY is unsortable so useless for lots of uses, it always needs to be reformatted.
Thing is MMDDYY is unsortable so useless for lots of uses, it always needs to be reformatted.
@AlisonW @twostraws as Douglas Adams would say, that's Somebody Else's Problem π Ease of coding should never trump usability IMH(and not at all well informed)O :)
@geth @twostraws
The format mmddyy has ZERO usability though, perfectly demonstrated by the number of countries globally which use it.
The format mmddyy has ZERO usability though, perfectly demonstrated by the number of countries globally which use it.
@AlisonW @twostraws mmddyy makes my brain hurt. I acknowledge part of this is what you're used to but at least ddmmyy has smallest unit of measurement first and would logically be preceded with a time if you were making a date. :) I wonder if Americans say let's meet on January 12, 2pm, 2023 π€
Kavana Ramaswamy@AlisonW
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I must confess though, I prefer the
DD MMM YYYY format myself, where the month in letters splits it into short number date and long number year. Long number strings are much harder for me to read π