Dr. Lucky Tran 
Nathanael NerodeEveryone who has had #Covid once is now immunocompromised (according to many, many studies) and therefore at higher risk. This is probably over half the US population.
The pandemic doesn't end until we start protecting one another.
The Spoonless Kitchen@neroden @luckytran I ask this every time this comes up. It seems to be a standard talking point and I still have not received an evidence-based scientific answer:
IF SARS-CoV-2 causes "immune system dysfunction" why did SARS-CoV-1 NOT have the same issue?
Why do NONE of the other four coronaviruses (the ones that are now no longer lethal) cause "immune system dysfunction/disorder/autoimmune disorder" (that's another red flag different terms keep getting thrown around), despite those coronaviruses causing 15% of all colds, every year, multiple times per year?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus#Common_cold
Perhaps they do, and perhaps that will finally allow #science to crack the nut on auto-immune disorders.
Eventually the SARS-CoV-2 #pandemic will end the way the HC-OC43 (another coronavirus) pandemic did.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8441924/
HC-OC43 does not make its annual/multiple-times-yearly sufferers have "immune dysfunction."
Unless it does. In which case, #science really needs to catch up. Quickly.
@neroden @luckytran ...and I still haven't received an answer to this....
No, but seriously, if one of the sequelae of coronavirus infection is "auto-immune disorder" or "immune dysfuction" or "becoming immunocompromised" (note I have seen ALL of these descriptions touted as "inevitable after first COVID infection"), then 10-15% OF THE EARTH would, every year, MUTLIPLE TIMES per year, be really, truly, disabled, because "immune dysfunction" is a bad, bad, bad, thing, and NOT just "I got a bacterial infection after the flu" which is the kind of TEMPORARILY lowered immune response ACTUAL evidence-based scientists and doctors are talking about. Which also happens with flu. But no one cares about flu either.
Either 10-15% of everyone, everywhere, every year, up until now, have developed auto-immune disease as a result of catching one of four common cold betacoronaviruses, and no one has correlated it (in which case BIG YIKES) or it's BS.
I'll let you figure out what I lean towards.
Giant@thespoonless @neroden @luckytran Your argument is like saying that leopards and house cats are the same thing because they're both felines. House cats never eat faces, therefore leopards are safe to have as housepets. For some reason I'm assuming you're doing this in good faith and simply haven't read up. SARS-COV2 is not the same as other coronaviruses. It's way worse. To get you up to speed, here are some papers about the damage SARS-COV2 does to the immune system. Cheers! :)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33777042/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33751111/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.08.09.22278592v1
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.05.20.492764v1
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/all.15372
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-022-00919-x
https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2820%2931067-9
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7773371/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8783674/
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq1841
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.13.22279912v1
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.09.15.507787v1
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-021-00728-2
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2021.676932/full
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.18.512708v1
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12668-022-01020-x
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-021-02228-6
https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1009742
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-021-00749-3
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-022-01351-7
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2022.1034159/full
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35079804/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34022619/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36479392/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41385-021-00482-8
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2022.1080822/full
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scitranslmed.add0484
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-25509-3
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32425950/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9057012/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04702-4
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-29801-8?s=09
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-021-01113-x
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33884644/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32632085/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33821250/
https://www.mdpi.com/2227-9059/10/2/382
Autoimmune and Rheumatic Manifestations Associated With COVID-19 in Adults: An Updated Systematic Review - PubMed
<span><b>Background:</b> Numerous cases of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) with autoimmune and rheumatic manifestations have been reported. Despite the available reviews that summarized its autoimmune/rheumatic manifestations, a systematic approach is still lacking. Therefore, we conducted a compr</span> …
Mark M. Evans@thespoonless You are all over the place with this expecting dozens or more of different viruses to all have the same long term effects on people. But that's not how it works. Remember before it was classified it was called the novel coronavirus. Novel, as in "we've never seen this one before." You are clearly trying to cherry pick "facts" about related viruses to support some narrative.
Doctors and scientists are still trying to figure this beast out and it's evolving. That's reality whether we like it or not.