TLDR: Mastodon is very white, male, status quo, global north, and designed in a way to limit its potential for use in social movements.

Mastodon feels very different from Twitter, deliberately. It is truly like Live Journal. It is about people who are happy with their social circle and who think of virality and discoverability as a problem. They just want to communicate with the people they know, and limit other things. Ironically, it is more like a private gathering than a public space.

In this episode of #OnTheMedia where a senior Mastodon community member says basically that they limited things that caused virality because they thought that was one of the worst things about Twitter, and then kinda shrugs when he says something like "Of course, that means that Mastodon couldn't have supported social movements like #MeToo or #BlackLivesMatter." He also concedes that Black Twitter folk have been made to feel unwelcome, but ... eh.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-mastodon-may-take-twitters-weary

Mastodon: The Platform Taking Twitter's Worn and Weary | On the Media | WNYC Studios

What happens when you slow down socializing?

WNYC Studios
Basically he was smug and entirely uninterested in the use of social media for social change, and was happy to jetison it all. He compared Mastodon to his private BB with guitar nerds where anything you wrote was read by 100 people and that was fine.
Mastodon does have a history of being Queer friendly (one app even asked me if I wanted to join an instance which was for Furries) but that gets used as a shield when people point out how unfriendly these spaces are to lots of other people. Heck, I saw parts of Black Twitter return to Twitter and say they would rather deal with the Nazis where they had community than stick around on Mastodon. It also does have decentralized moderation which makes it easier to ban Nazis.
What it lacks is the ability to Quote Tweet, that is to add your own comments to what somebody may have said, which is often used in social mobilizing. It also doesn't have full text search. This was all done intentionally. But as a result, it's much harder to reach out of your networks to other people. I used Twitter to follow multiple social movements, as well as to learn about people in other countries. Mastodon isn't useful for any of that. And it doesn't want to be.

So I'm here. But even though my friends are awesome, I don't have any new ones I've made on Mastodon (unlike Twitter), and it is overall pretty boring and unlike Twitter it makes building a network feel like work. At the same time, it is of much less use for work. I have almost no Africa network, I have little interaction with journalists, and because the network is more closed, I learn less.

Whatever. It's fine but it's not a substitute for Twitter at all.

@naunihal I see you are on .social which I believe is a large and quite generic server.
I agree some features inhibit virality, but in terms of meeting people you might perhaps do better to move to one that's more suited to your interests. Then looking at and interacting with the local and even federated (as I'm doing here) timelines might be worthwhile.
@regordane How do I check out other servers? I can see a "sciences.social" server, but I don't know how to see what is being posted there.

@naunihal just go to https://sciences.social/explore to take a look. Also, I take your point about the lack of African servers. Hopefully that will change.

Hashtags are also a very important way of finding people with common interests on Mastodon as they can be both searched and followed.

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@regordane I'm not seeing much use of hashtags on peoples posts. It's one of the reasons why full text search is useful :( Maybe people will change but even guessing which hashtags are the right ones is not easy (for either posting or searching). And if you have to search 7 variants for each possible hashtag, it increases the load on the user.

@naunihal @regordane

if you are not seeing the hashtags, it is most likely because the people are new.

there are many growing communities here and we find each other via hashtags. you can follow them, you can mark them, you can make sure that everytime it is used, you are notified.

it is not twitter and i am so happy about that... but you can make it work for you. also, there are instances in the fediverse that allow QTs. mastodon is just a small part of something much bigger.

@NotNowOrLater2 @naunihal @regordane if you use a tool like fedifinder.glitch.me to find the Mastodon accounts of those you followed on Twitter, it will also tell you which servers most of them are in, which might help you move somewhere with an interesting Local feed. I’ve found enough interesting in my Home timeline for it to not matter personally.

@naunihal Using hashtags is essential for building reach.

I do not want another Twitter with an algorithm driven feed, so I am very happy to build my list of people to follow organically - by perusing the local and federated streams - in addition to looking at hashtags.

Another way is to look at posts that get traction and read the streams of people that make good commentary.

By using or not using tags, you sort of opt in or out of discoverability.

Going viral is not a requirement, IMO.

@LarsFosdal @naunihal
Yes, I also don't want a algorithm like in Twitter.
But what I realized very fast: a chronically timeline makes my experience far less international, the one thing I really liked on Twitter.

Here i have much more to do, to find informations from e.g. America.
So sometime I wish for at least a 'scroll to time xx:xx' function.

@LarsFosdal @naunihal

"I don't see any problem with the Mastodon status quo. Also, I'm a white male tech guy from the global north."

@naunihal @regordane certain communities use hashtags.

#ActuallyAutistic certainly does...

@naunihal @regordane hashtags take time to evolve/coalesce. The #BirdSiteMeltdown had a long time for communities to form and settle on hashtags. Hopefully communities won't need as long to migrate, reform, and select hashtags here.
@naunihal @regordane #BlackHistory seems like a good hashtag
@naunihal @regordane topically , here's a toot listing hashtags: https://toot.cat/@kevix/109464322357861173
Kevix (he/him) :debian: (@[email protected])

Content warning: a log list of hashtags

Toot.Cat
myrmepropagandist (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image I've been creeping around looking at a lot of people's accounts (I'm doing a survey) Noticed that people with very few followers have one thing in common: they have not boosted the posts of other people often if at all. (When I see posts like this encouraging boosting I always think "well that person just wants boosts, whatever") That's not it. On twitter it was important to only boost exceptional content -- boost here to invite more people to join in talking about something.

Sauropods.win

@naunihal @regordane People post hashtags if they want to be part of the general discussion on a topic. They don’t if they don’t.

It gives control to the user.

Look at the hashtags and pick the ones that correspond to the discussions you want to join.

@naunihal @regordane Hashtags are really important, but using them is a habit not everyone, especially folks who came over from twitter like I did, are used to. But I made a conscious effort to start using and searching for hashtags, and it was like a new Mastodon opened up for me.
@naunihal You definitely need hashtags -- almost every post in my feed has at least one, and some have a bank of them. You can search for some hashtags that seem intuitive and then click on others where posts have several, and soon you'll find yourself where you wanted to be. You can actually subscribe to hashtags here, which is powerful. I get lots of good stuff via #BlackMastodon (which is a community, and even some servers spaces), and lots of other communities define tags to gather.

@regordane @naunihal https://sciences.social/public/local is better for getting a feel on what they talk about on that server in particular. The /explore timeline includes popular posts from other servers. Most (although not all) servers make one or both of these feeds public.

And Naunihal Singh excellent points in the thread! Not sure if you've seen The Whiteness of Mastodon but he talks about some of these issues https://techpolicy.press/the-whiteness-of-mastodon/

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@naunihal
I just looked for a local instance to get some info of things happening around me, even without anyone knowing in this instance. Then I added the people I followed on Twitter and knew their Mastodon account. This was already a good start for me here.
The big difference to Twitter is: Here I could discuss with a climate sceptic and the discussion went in whole sentences and without any ad hominem attacks. Great!
Give Mastodon time to grow!
@naunihal using the fedilab application you can follow an entire instance, as if it were a mastodon list!

You can also ask any friendica administrator to create you a forum group dedicated to a particular topic, so that by following and mentioning it, you can create threads (or, alternatively, you can subscribe to a friendica server to create one yourself)

@regordane
@naunihal @regordane iOS client app “Ice Cubes” can add “local” timelines from arbitrary instances