Journalists will never stick around this app long term sadly unless it adds quote posting. We desperately need it to communicate effectively, build on each others ideas, and add crucial context to posts. These are things replies simply do not accomplish. Also quote posting or reblogging does not = harassment! Tumblr, for instance, has had the feature since the beginning. We need it here now too šŸ™šŸ»
Reblogging is organic user behavior and Twitter built the quote tweet feature because so many people were doing it manually already. It’s a huge burden on the user not to have this simple and important feature on a social platform imo (again just my personal opinion!)
@taylorlorenz I appreciate your opinion, while contending that you are wrong about this. No, you don't "need" quote tweeting, and lack of it inconveniences no-one, IMHO. It's not a "huge burden", to be sure.
@jab01701mid I specified for journalists because I do believe it is a large burden and hamstrings our ability to contextualize and build on information. Again just my opinion! šŸ˜…
@jab01701mid @taylorlorenz the mastodon tools are definitely not well designed for the mainstream journalist use case. I think we can either find ones that are closer or (more likely) newer tools will arise soon that are a better fit.
@taylorlorenz @anildash @jab01701mid once again many regular folx, particularly from marginalized communities, are being ignored…journalists aren’t the only folx who have used QT as an effective strategy for communicating…if Mastodon is going to be anything other than a ā€œholding spaceā€ until something better, we can’t replicate Twitter’s issue of ONLY valuing the needs of some who’re considered ā€œimportantā€ over others whose voice need to be heard
@KimCrayton1 @taylorlorenz @anildash @jab01701mid
I feel like it's a feature abused by so-called infuencers to take advantage. In some ways they even take credit. It also diminishes discourse if we rely on influencers/journalists to add their 'hot takes'.
@sri @KimCrayton1 There seem to be a lot of people in here who only see QTs as negative, partly because they don't listen to people who find them useful for communicating (not grandstanding). Maybe a solution could be reached that allows for the benefits while limiting the potential for abuse, but not if people just declare that QTs have no redeeming value.
@tealdeer @sri @KimCrayton1 or it might be that we do understand and we think they are wrong. It’s a little demoralizing to be talked down to by people who have been here less than a month.
@KimCrayton1 @LucyWildboots @sri I get why that's demoralizing. But I also get why people are frustrated at being told "this tool you're asking for doesn't have any legitimate uses" when they've just said that QTs have helped them build community.
@tealdeer @KimCrayton1 @sri but that isn’t actually what they say. What they say is that the community must adapt or they will leave. Many of us are fine with them leaving. Though we have enjoyed reading their ā€˜it’s been X days since Twitter blocked us’ using Ted Koppel’s voice
@LucyWildboots @sri @KimCrayton1 Yeah, I'm not a fan of how Taylor Lorenz kicked this thread off and I'm not referring to her. I'm talking about @KimCrayton1 's post in this thread, and lots of other posts from Black Twitter users in general.
@tealdeer @LucyWildboots @sri @KimCrayton1 fwiw I posted that as an off the cuff thought, I didn’t mean to come off rudely and I can see why it does. The reblog thing is just a limitation I have experienced and it’s been the sticking point to getting other journalists to use this app regularly. I love it here and I want people to all be able use this platform and be happy. I definitely wish I worded things differently!

@taylorlorenz @tealdeer @LucyWildboots @sri @KimCrayton1 I'm glad the conversation occurred (even if one person muted me; I don't know what it was, but I apologize!).

I had no idea how integral QTs were to communities experience.

I also wasn't aware that there are wide variances of experience within the lgbtq community itself. And best of all, I found someone with actual research on the issue (limited as it currently is).

I'll take discourse over memes any day.