Reblogging is organic user behavior and Twitter built the quote tweet feature because so many people were doing it manually already. It’s a huge burden on the user not to have this simple and important feature on a social platform imo (again just my personal opinion!)

@taylorlorenz I appreciate your opinion, while contending that you are wrong about this. No, you don't "need" quote tweeting, and lack of it inconveniences no-one, IMHO. It's not a "huge burden", to be sure.

@jab01701mid I specified for journalists because I do believe it is a large burden and hamstrings our ability to contextualize and build on information. Again just my opinion! 😅

@jab01701mid @taylorlorenz the mastodon tools are definitely not well designed for the mainstream journalist use case. I think we can either find ones that are closer or (more likely) newer tools will arise soon that are a better fit.

@taylorlorenz @anildash @jab01701mid once again many regular folx, particularly from marginalized communities, are being ignored…journalists aren’t the only folx who have used QT as an effective strategy for communicating…if Mastodon is going to be anything other than a “holding space” until something better, we can’t replicate Twitter’s issue of ONLY valuing the needs of some who’re considered “important” over others whose voice need to be heard

@KimCrayton1 @taylorlorenz @anildash @jab01701mid
I feel like it's a feature abused by so-called infuencers to take advantage. In some ways they even take credit. It also diminishes discourse if we rely on influencers/journalists to add their 'hot takes'.

@sri @KimCrayton1 There seem to be a lot of people in here who only see QTs as negative, partly because they don't listen to people who find them useful for communicating (not grandstanding). Maybe a solution could be reached that allows for the benefits while limiting the potential for abuse, but not if people just declare that QTs have no redeeming value.

@tealdeer @sri @KimCrayton1 or it might be that we do understand and we think they are wrong. It’s a little demoralizing to be talked down to by people who have been here less than a month.

@KimCrayton1 @LucyWildboots @sri I get why that's demoralizing. But I also get why people are frustrated at being told "this tool you're asking for doesn't have any legitimate uses" when they've just said that QTs have helped them build community.

@tealdeer @KimCrayton1 @sri but that isn’t actually what they say. What they say is that the community must adapt or they will leave. Many of us are fine with them leaving. Though we have enjoyed reading their ‘it’s been X days since Twitter blocked us’ using Ted Koppel’s voice

@LucyWildboots @sri @KimCrayton1 Yeah, I'm not a fan of how Taylor Lorenz kicked this thread off and I'm not referring to her. I'm talking about @KimCrayton1 's post in this thread, and lots of other posts from Black Twitter users in general.

@tealdeer @sri @KimCrayton1 my problem with that take is that there are stories all over talking about how Masto was built on disenfranchised communities. Does #BlackMastodon need this tool or support? Not the same argument.

@tealdeer @sri @LucyWildboots surprise, surprise…all Black folx aren’t the same which mean we have different needs…ho figure

@KimCrayton1 @tealdeer @sri I have some bad news: You aren’t the only marginalized community here. See that little stripey flag by my name? Yea. So if we can build safe communities without QT, maybe look into how we did it. Or you can just default to Twitter snark.

@LucyWildboots @KimCrayton1 @tealdeer That isn't a very nice response - the stripey flag should give you a greater sense of empathy for other marginalized communities and not tell them to piss off.

@sri @KimCrayton1 @tealdeer I didn’t tell her to piss off. I asked a legit question: if others can build them with existing tools why do they specifically need this tool. I would & have challenged similar arguments when reviewing design docs & use cases.

@LucyWildboots @KimCrayton1 @tealdeer It was when you said "Or you can just default to Twitter snark." that implied if you don't like it go back to the bird site.

@sri @KimCrayton1 @tealdeer nope, that was in reference to the animated.gif. They’re really the last stand of the inarticulate.

@LucyWildboots @KimCrayton1 @sri @tealdeer gifs are a form of expression with a lot of history and nuance. And that “inarticulate” framing isn’t a good look.