Frank BoermanDec 23, 2022
Jon Worth

Right, it's DONE 💪

Every railway border between
All 🇪🇺 countries
🇳🇴
🇨🇭
🇬🇧
🇱🇮
🇸🇲
🇻🇦
🇺🇦
🇲🇩
🇷🇸
🇧🇦
🇲🇰
🇽🇰
🇦🇱
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now mapped...

Inc. existing lines with passenger trains, lines without passenger trains, and derelict lines too. Even tramways and narrow gauge are mapped

Here's the Zoom-able version
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_838780#5/52.999/7.747

Now tell me what I am missing, and where I ought to go next 😊

Grey icons are the places I have not been!

#CrossBorderRail All The Borders - uMap

Dec 22, 2022 at 6:42pmWeb
Show threadSozaboyDec 22, 2022
@jon impressive!
Show threadRobert Weißgraeber🇪🇺Dec 22, 2022
@jon Pula (HR) from Koper (SLO)
Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@rw007 I've not been to that part of Slovenia for a long time... would be nice! Now can I fit that in sometime 2023...?
Show threadPhil Dennis-JordanDec 22, 2022
@jon Hmm, I’m not seeing ANY crossings between Austria and Hungary, including the main Vienna-Budapest route, seems like something might have gone systematically wrong there?
Crossings local to me:
Nickelsdorf-Hegyeshalom (Vienna Hbf-Budapest Keleti): https://goo.gl/maps/SEXxzqNPK5G1K1UV6
(Vienna Hbf-)Pamhagen-Fertöszentmiklós (doesn’t run past Pamhagen often): https://goo.gl/maps/PUmS7ohzHSBaf6nf8
Baumgarten-Sopron: https://goo.gl/maps/ybNMExMfbRZRsivZ9
Sopron-Deutschkreutz: https://goo.gl/maps/UwXWqkjxZeP1WBEH9
Either way, an impressive project!
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Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@pmdj Ah this is me simply messing up. Will fix!
Show threadPhil Dennis-JordanDec 22, 2022
@jon Loipersbach-Sopron: https://goo.gl/maps/mj5G7dcJ2twe9Gaf8
I’ve just checked and there are active passenger services on all the crossings I’ve mentioned, in case you didn’t already have that data. There are more AT-HU crossings further south, but I’m not familiar with the situation there. The crossings between Baumgarten/Sopron/Deutschkreutz are used by the Bratislava Petrzalka-Deutschkreutz train, which makes it all the weirder they aren’t on the map, because that also crosses at Kittsee.
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Show threadPhil Dennis-JordanDec 22, 2022
@jon (That also means you can tick off 3 crossings on one ride, should you find yourself in our neck of the woods someday!)
Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@pmdj OK, all fixed now!
Show threadPhil Dennis-JordanDec 22, 2022
@jon awesome!
Show threadFabio 🚂Dec 22, 2022

@jon What about this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Cenis_Pass_Railway

Mont Cenis Pass Railway - Wikipedia

Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@cruentapolvere Hmmm. A line that was built to build another line... that's niche! But I like the idea!
Show threadFabio 🚂Dec 22, 2022
@jon btw I think Tirano-Campocologno has the wrong icon 😉
Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@cruentapolvere Fixed!
Show threadMichał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦Dec 22, 2022
@jon cc @whvholst
Show threaddinosauceDec 22, 2022
@jon two rail crossings between 🇹🇷 and 🇬🇷 are missing (derelict line since 1970s)
here is the OpenStreetMap way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/137678167
Way: 137678167 | OpenStreetMap

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Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@dinosauce Ah interesting, thank you. They basically re-routed the line so as to not have to cross the border twice?
Show threaddinosauceDec 22, 2022
@jon yes, that's the reason. (basically it was an exclave, so the Turkish operator didn't want that situation, thus built a new line in their territory on the other side of river and relocated the station. The rerouting on Greek side came after that)
Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@dinosauce (now added those two to the map)
Show threadMichael Dec 22, 2022
@jon What’s this about ? 😃
Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@_iguelreyes Summer 2022 I crossed every border in the EU you can cross by train. But not every single line. So now I am wondering what lines I also ought to go visit...
Show threadMichael Dec 22, 2022
@jon thank you for explaining 😃
Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@_iguelreyes This is where I went this year: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail_739022#7/52.115/6.818
#CrossBorderRail - uMap

Show threadDominic StuckiDec 22, 2022
@jon Fantastic work, Jon! 😲
The border crossings of Geneva's huge former cross-border tram network are missing. And the Riehen-Lörrach tram in Basel.
Apart from that, 🇨🇭 looks complete to me. ☺️
Show threadJon WorthDec 22, 2022
@dominicstucki Do you have a map of the old Geneva network?
Show threadDominic StuckiDec 22, 2022
@jon
There is a good overview map in the «Eisenbahnatlas Schweiz». To find the exact locations, I recommend the old maps on the official Swiss geoportal.
https://s.geo.admin.ch/9c6732f07f
The second pic shows the two line symbols used for narrow gauge railways.
Swiss Geoportal

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Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@dominicstucki Thanks! I’ll have a go. Today is going to be about Swiss and Belgian tramways ;-)
Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@dominicstucki Ah now understood the Riehen thing - see https://www.g-st.ch/trambasel/bvb_blt/htmlsite/hst_riehengrenze.html So that one has been added!
www.tram-basel.ch - Netz/Haltestelle: Riehen Grenze

www.tram-basel.ch - Netz/Haltestelle: Riehen Grenze

Show threadLennart FahnenmüllerDec 22, 2022
@jon
Helsingborg-Helsingør is a debatable one. Definitely worth a visit, used to be the standard route to Sweden, lots of infrastructure to see.
Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@Lenny_du_Nord I wondered about that. They’re never going to re open the ferry route though surely? (I’ve been there)
Show threadLennart FahnenmüllerDec 23, 2022
@jon what do you mean? The ferry runs really frequently, and terminals on both sides are directly connected to the train stations. IIRC coming from Hamburg if you miss the Gothenburg train you can catch it via the ferry.
For trains, no. Malmö is too important. I think they are discussing a second fixed link though, either at Helsingborg or at Landskrona.
Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@Lenny_du_Nord I am literally seeking railway borders. Not places where railway passengers would transit to something else. There is no way they're going to put trains on the ferries at Helsingør again. And I will add borders where stuff is being built already, but there it is not.
Show threadLennart FahnenmüllerDec 23, 2022
@jon Currently it looks weird to include Puttgarden MS but not Helsingborg MS crossings, but if that’s your criteria, then it’s fine to not include it.
And it’s also an interesting debate: the integrated train-ferry-train service with 2 changes is probably faster and more reliable than the roro. So yes, it’s an ex railway crossing, but nobody in their right mind would call to reactivate it in the former way.
Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@Lenny_du_Nord Also Fehmarn is already being reconstructed for the tunnel...
Show threadasraelvudogelDec 23, 2022
@jon
@Lenny_du_Nord
To a reactivation of Puttgarden:
Scandlines wants to keep their railwayconnection. And there is a switch to Puttgarden in the planning aproval documents for the german side of the tunnel. In Rødbyhavn all tracks are gone, but it's possible that Scandlines wants connect to another harbor in the baltic sea. 🤷
Show threadNorra kommissionenDec 23, 2022
@asraelvudogel @jon @Lenny_du_Nord Huh? Where else should they go, Trelleborg?
Show threadasraelvudogelDec 23, 2022

@nordkommission
I don't know what their plans for the railways are, but they want to keep up the ferry between Puttgarden and Rødby for the cars, for the people who are afraid of tunnels.

@jon @Lenny_du_Nord

Show threadNorra kommissionenDec 23, 2022
@asraelvudogel @jon @Lenny_du_Nord And cyclists, because I guarantee you the rail connections through the tunnel will not accommodate cyclist needs well...
Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@nordkommission @asraelvudogel @Lenny_du_Nord Not so. All the trains using the tunnel will be built after the introduction of the new EU Regulation, so will have to carry at least 2 bikes per carriage. And bike transport is one of the few things Danish railways does well!
Show threadLennart FahnenmüllerDec 23, 2022
@jon @nordkommission @asraelvudogel I believe there will be a regular RE Lübeck-Nykøbing, so there should be even more bike spaces.
I don’t believe in this whole Scandlines ferry story. There is no way that a ferry adding 60’ to the journey will be economically feasible. I’d bet that there will be no ferry from Fehmarn to Denmark by 2035.
Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@Lenny_du_Nord @nordkommission @asraelvudogel Agree. It's not the same as Dover-Calais, where the ferry is still time competitive, ish. Here most will just drive through the tunnel.
Show threadLennart FahnenmüllerDec 23, 2022

@jon @nordkommission @asraelvudogel
PS RE the HH-Tunnel: there was a study last year that concluded it’s possible. The Swedes want it more than the Danes (because Helsingborg benefits from the fast connection to Kbh)… but pressure will rise when the Fehmarn connection is there, not least because trains to Sweden can’t easily call at Kbh H.

https://api.vejdirektoratet.dk/sites/default/files/2021-01/7471_VD_HH-raport_26-01-2021.pdf

Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@Lenny_du_Nord @nordkommission @asraelvudogel Sure, it may eventually happen. But until there is a proper plan as to how to do it I'm not going to try to map it (or indeed other not fully mapped out future lines!)
Show threadNorra kommissionenDec 23, 2022
@jon @Lenny_du_Nord @asraelvudogel Capacity and price. Helsingør - Helsingborg vs. Öresundbridge.
Show threadasraelvudogelDec 23, 2022
@Lenny_du_Nord
@jon @nordkommission
The current plan is to build a second platform in Burg on Fehmarn and to allow Danish regional trains to terminate there and let the people change trains there. But that can still change, of course. There is a lot of movement at the moment, also due to political decisions.
Show threadDaniel BruceDec 23, 2022

@jon I have no reason to be excited about this map – but I still am.

Maybe it's because I can boast that I passed the northernmost one twice.

Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@danielbruce I was in Boden this year - to go to Haparanda. I’m now thinking “damn I should have gone to Narvik too”
Show threadDaniel BruceDec 23, 2022
@jon I guess you usually do not hang out in those areas–not many do–so yes.
Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022
@jon Da Du den kurzen tschechischen Transit kurz vor Zittau drin hast, sollte auch der Transit der Schweinitztalbahn (bei Olbernhau) durch die damalige Tschechoslowakei drin sein.
Strecke: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnstrecke_Olbernhau-Gr%C3%BCnthal%E2%80%93Deutschneudorf.
Karte: Auf http://www.susudata.de/messtisch/openstreetmap.html nach Oberneuschönberg suchen.
Bahnstrecke Olbernhau-Grünthal–Deutschneudorf – Wikipedia

Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@heisebahn This has now been added, as has the Berchtesgaden-Salzburg Lokalbahn.
Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022
@jon At Bad Brambach six of the seven border crossings are missing. 😀 Once there was a german station at Schönberg: https://www.sachsenschiene.net/bahn/sta/sta1784.htm.
Sachsenschiene.de - Eisenbahnen in Sachsen

Geschichte, Fotos und Daten zu Strecken, Bahnhöfen und Ingenieurbauwerken der Eisenbahn in Sachsen

Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022

@heisebahn I decided that if it was a track that criss-crossed the border I would only list it once!

Berchtesgaden I will add!

Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022
@jon It's a good choice.
Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022
@jon Great work by the way. 😀
The old Lokalbahn between Salzburg and Berchtesgaden is missing. Out of traffic 1938, not shown at Susudata.
Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022
@jon I would consider Weener - Nieuweschans as active. Dutch trains are running to Weener, forming a cross border service with no rail connection further into Germany. (It's like the lines Esch - Audun eller Dudelange - Volmerange between LU and FR, DE being the FR part).
Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@heisebahn Ah true, fair enough. Will amend.
Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022
@jon You wrote three times "No idea what this was" between LV and LT. That were german military railways built under WW I. According to Hesselink's book "Eisenbahnbahnen im Baltikum" threr were five that crossed the current border. More comes.
Show threadJon WorthDec 23, 2022
@heisebahn These three appear in the European Commission's 2018 report on cross border railways, but no information is provided about any of them. Searching online did not dig up much!
Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022
@jon No wonder. Many of these lines existed only during the war and are poorly documented.
There could only literature about the "Heeresfeldbahnen" help, maybe. I have one book about them and am quite sure where to find it.
Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022

@jon The book https://d-nb.info/954658167 has no further information.

For the latvian line to Nereta the 1924 timetable (russian) is available at https://parovoz.com/schedules/latvia1924/latvia14.php. The lines there have an article in latvian Wikipedia: https://lv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vies%C4%ABtes_%C5%A1aurslie%C5%BEu_dzelzce%C4%BC%C5%A1

DNB, Katalog der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek

Show threadheisebahnDec 23, 2022
@jon Hard to see what was build and what only planned on the map. Another map, dated 1919, shows only two as existing, Akniste 🇱🇻 - Rokiškis 🇱🇹 and Nereta 🇱🇻 - Suvainiškis 🇱🇹, both 600 mm. Unfortunately no more details.