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Should kolektiva change its registration policy? Currently it's open.
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keep open
basic screening
close registration
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This poll is just a vibe check. We're anarchists and a lot of non-anarchists are joining from Twitter and there's a question around what kind of environment we collectively want and can sustain. Really interested in hearing why people joined #Kolektiva and what y'all would like to see continue. 🏴🖤
Queer Satanic@admin The argument for basic screening is an easy one to make when you’re not the one having to do the labor of screening people.
But, it seems like it would be helpful in labor overall by slowing down growth on this server if it’s becoming unmanageable to moderate.
It also might give people the opportunity to stop and think if they want an anarchist server or are just looking for something to replace Twitter. If there’s a way to make people answer questions that they understand something to that effect, it might help mutually fit everyone to know a meet expectations.
starfall(8)@QueerSatanic @admin If you're not doing the screening labor up front, you're doing it after people get hurt. There's no situation where you avoid doing moderation.
Helmic@starfall That's sorta true, but I'm not seeing people get seriously hurt specifically from new kolektiva accounts. The malicious actors know enough to lie, but most complaints I'm seeing are about liberalism - that doesn't seem anywhere near dire enough to justify making onboarding less accessible, I think we can expect most anarchists to find that very annoying but be able to put up with it so long it gets addressed in a reasonable timeframe.
We have to weigh the good done from providing an anarchist space to people migrating from a genuinely dangerous platform (or going to Mastodon instances with shittier policies, especially given the complaints of racism from black users) against the complaints of existing users, and I just don't think the occasional electoralism is traumatizing anyone enough to start filtering the kinds of people out who get intimidated by these filtering processes. I would certainly agree if there was a serious influx of chuds and dangerous abusers signing up, but at the moment that doesn't seem to be the case.
Not having to review the majority of users who will need a minimal amount of moderation can also still be overall labor savings. A lib being pointed to another instance takes time, yes, but probably less time than doing that and also having to approve many more accounts that never will need to interact with the moderation team except to file reports of what they see.
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@Helmic I mean, this is being considered specifically because Anna signed up to have somewhere that wasn't blocked by everyone to harass Ro with, so...
@Helmic Like, Kolektiva's historically slow moderation is a big point of contention. I think it's much improved from what it used to be, but like, the complaints of racism are sometimes because of Kolektiva and that's the context this is being considered for
@starfall The anna from witches.live? I must have missed that, if the complaints aren't about seeing liberals for a few hours but are specifically people starting shit then that obviously changes things.
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@starfall Dug and found some posts. So from what I understand Anna came on here specifically to evade a block. That should in itself be an immediate suspension.
For that specific case, though, I'm not sure how a screening process would have stopped that. It wasn't a case of a flood of randoms that would've been defeated by friction, she made an account for malicious purposes and could've just lied to get in, and it would have been seen as more an endorsement by kolektiva in that case since someone would have let her in. She probably wouldn't have used that exact username, and it's not like every person named anna on here deserves to be scrutinized because there exists an anna elsewhere.
It seems like the account was frozen once people were made aware of it. I'm not sure what could be done here to have stopped her from making an account short of making this invite only, and in that case she probably would have just used a different instance.
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