1. ABOUT LAST NIGHT

I participated in a Twitter space hosted by @[email protected] w/a lot of journalists

When I joined @[email protected], one of Musk's apparatchiks, was badgering @[email protected], a suspended reporter, and Jack Sweeney, the guy behind the accounts that tracked jets

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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] 2. Jason was making the point that everyone was upset about the suspension, but we need to focus on the real point: IF YOU POSTED SOMEONE'S REAL TIME LOCATION AND SOMEONE DIED WOULD YOU FEEL BAD?

Drew made the point that this was a dumb question

3. Jason kept on asking it over and over again.

I think he thought this was a great way of redirecting the conversation and making Musk seem reasonable.

IS THIS THE KIND OF SOCIETY WE WANT TO LIVE IN? WHERE PEOPLE ARE PUT IN DANGER FROM BEING UNDER CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE?

4. I finally had enough. @[email protected] invited me to be a speaker so I interrupted

My point was: THE ENTIRE PREMISE OF THE QUESTION WAS A LIE.

The suspended journalists had not reported on Musk's real-time location!

They covered the fact that he suspended Sweeny's accounts

5. I said the bigger question is whether WE WANT TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE POWERFUL PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO LIE AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH IMPUNITY AND THEN USE THESE LIES TO JUSTIFY OTHERWISE INDEFENSIBLE ACTIONS

6. My other point was we can say we are concerned about the impact of social media use on people's safety BUT THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE LIMITED TO PRIVATE JETS.

MUSK HIMSELF WAS PUTTING PEOPLE AT RISK BY MAKING WILD ACCUSATIONS, INCLUDING THAT THEY WERE PEDOPHILES

7. I didn't realize it but, in the middle of my rant, Musk himself entered the room
@juddlegum do you have the audio for that perchance ? 
@helgur @juddlegum it was hosted on YouTube somewhere earlier today…
@NeilEvansRocks @juddlegum I'll try to find it, would love to hear his rant as musk is like :nopeout:
Full Recording: Elon Musk, Banned Reporters + ElonJet Talk on Twitter Spaces

YouTube
@notoriousjdj @NeilEvansRocks @juddlegum much obliged! I already have my 🍿 ready ... 

@notoriousjdj @helgur @NeilEvansRocks @juddlegum

Thanks a lot!
Was worth listening to.
Elmo really means the things he tweets EXACTLY how he posts them. End of story.

@helgur @juddlegum as I understand it, when Twitter shut down Spaces that made it impossible to preserve it.

8. Once I realized this, I shut up so Katie and Drew could ask him questions. Musk basically ignored the questions and kept repeating, "no doxxing" and "no special rules for journalists"

When Drew pressed him, he quickly bolted.

He does not like to be challenged or questioned.

9. Shortly after Musk left, THE SPACE WAS SHUT DOWN.

In fact, ALL SPACES WERE SHUT DOWN.

They weren't fully restored until tonight.

10. What was missing from @[email protected]'s defense of Musk, and Musk's own position is CONTEXT.

Musk says he's for free speech but when people are saying things he doesn't like, he tries to shut them up.

We saw this a few weeks ago with the Musk parody accounts

@juddlegum he's plainly thin skinned as hell

@juddlegum

You are too kind. What lacked what an argument in good faith. Jason knows better. Even Elon knows better. The context was missing, it was blatantly ignored so they could shout down reality with fiction and a 40 billion dollar microphone.

@juddlegum Musks version of "free speech" is free speech for me, but not for thee. And how can he conflate tracking his airplane with someone following his vehicle? I think this is a BS story that he used as an excuse to delete certain accounts.

11. Comedy was legal on Twitter until people started making fun of him. Then @[email protected] another Musk buddy redefined parody as "fraud" and insisted Musk was doing us all a favor.

BUT IT GOES MUCH DEEPER THAN THIS.

12. You need to fully understand Musk's LONG history of saying he is for free speech but harshly cracking down on anyone who dares to criticize him.

13. In China, Tesla reportedly sought to leverage the power of China's authoritarian regime to silence critics.

Tesla reportedly "asked Beijing to use its censorship powers to block" critical posts

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-07-05/tesla-s-fall-from-grace-in-china-shows-perils-of-betting-on-beijing?sref=LPaI0SF6

Tesla’s Fall From Grace in China Shows Perils of Betting on Beijing

Elon Musk won advantages unheard of for Western businesses. Then came the reality check.

Bloomberg

14. A free press is central to free speech.

But after reporter Linette Lopez wrote critical stories about Tesla Musk accusing Lopez of conspiring with short sellers to trade on insider information, which is a crime

Musk had no proof but an army of minions to harass Lopez

15. The right to talk about joining a union is a key part of free speech rights for workers.

Musk, however, has sought to aggressively discourage unionization at Tesla. In a 2018 tweet, Musk threatened to rescind employee stock options at Tesla if workers decided to join a union

16. The Tesla NDA instructed employees that "they were not allowed to speak w/media w/o explicit written permission." But it did not say that labor law "protects employees when they speak with the media about working conditions [and[ labor disputes"

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/25/tesla-elon-musk-anti-union-tweet-must-be-deleted-nlrb.html

Tesla ordered to have Elon Musk delete anti-union tweet

The NRLB has directed Tesla to ask Musk to remove his offending tweet, and to offer a job back to a terminated employee who participated in union organizing.

CNBC

17. In 2018, pseudo-anonymous investor, Montana Skeptic, wrote extensively about Tesla stock

But in July 2018, Montana Skeptic shut down his Twitter account and stopped writing about Tesla. Why? Musk allegedly found out the identity of Montana Skeptic and alerted their employer

18. So yes, let's talk about free speech and let's talk about safety. But Twitter is a platform that is used by hundreds of millions of people.

THE SITE'S RULES SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN BY THE QUIXOTIC INTERESTS OF ONE BILLIONAIRE

HE BOUGHT IT, BUT HE ALSO NEEDS USERS TO BUY IN

19. And Musk and his minions should stop gaslighting people about Musk being a champion of free speech.

He is not.

He is wealthy, and he bought the site.

That's it.

20. Everyone's safety is important. And it should go without saying but the people whose personal safety is most at risk on this site are not billionaires who can afford private jets and private security.
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@juddlegum you shouldn't be crossposting in the blind

22. If you think I’m exaggerating, these tweets are a good summary of @[email protected]’s argument in the Twitter Space

Note: a car is not a plane and no one did this

@juddlegum
You leaving Mastadon?????
@juddlegum congratulations on being my first unfollow on Mastodon. I’ve just realised you aren’t even using Mastodon, you’re still using Twitter and just automatically sharing your posts to Mastodon. In other words, you’re part of the problem.
@juddlegum so are you leaving Twitter?
@juddlegum
So you’re leaving mastodon and twitter?
@juddlegum
last twitter thread? reading this on Mastodon
@juddlegum thank you, i have subscribed.

@juddlegum

This is a problem. Fbi need this.

@juddlegum Right? Anyone who still believes this also has multiple newly-minted Trump NFT's.
@juddlegum he’s an egomaniacal jerk who’s bullying everyone.
@juddlegum I wish all journalists would move over to Mastodon and forget about Twitter. It’s too toxic and too full of fake news these days. Only just heard about Mastodon because of all of the recent hoopla but will give it a shot.

@juddlegum

He's for free speech for the right. A true Trump Republican. Rules for thee but not for me.

@juddlegum
the only reason that i ever used twitter was to read posts from people like you. without you and others like you there would be no twitter.
@juddlegum Yes indeed he is “Elon the Tilter”. He is Sancho Panza without a Don Quixote.
@juddlegum Just let it go. Let it die. We all move on. #furryelephant

@juddlegum

'quixotic'??

That could never apply to anything Musk does.

Cervantes is already turning in his grave.

@juddlegum
By the end of 2023, Elon Musk is going to be panhandling at the side of an intersection in Austin with a sign "Will Steal Someone Else's Work for Food."
@juddlegum honestly... Management is against unionization when they exploit the workers. Kind management doesn't need to fear workers who know they're treated better than average.

@juddlegum

Elon Musk is an arsehole

Nobody gets to possess $000,000,000s of other peoples' created wealth without being a total arsehole

Think about it.

@juddlegum
On the subject of joining a Union Unite has the option for Community Membership for those who are out of work, etc and so not entitled to join a union on the basis of work.
@WillRobinson
@juddlegum "an army of minions to harass Lopez." Hmmm, who does that sound like?
TFG.
I wrote about how the RWers doxxed and then harassed public health officials during the pandemic.
Law enforcement didn't follow up on the threats calling them "1st Amendment issues" and harassment wasn't illegal. So finally Colorado passed a law making doxxing & harassing public health officials a crime. Now law enforcement had a tool to use. But they STILL need to use it.
@juddlegum That’s I think Musk is a dictator in Twitter. There's no free speech, no freedom for all users except himself.
@juddlegum they are redefining the language to their agenda… How was that called in that #book that apparently everybody read ? Ah! Yes, #newspeak !
@juddlegum thank you for sharing this information.